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This is an annoying game right now. Fields not looking good today. D keeps doing its job though.

This taunting stuff is just miserable. Who the eff asked for this?!?

Been waiting for this move. They should have done it week 1 to max its effect, but it makes sense. Edit they apparently didn't max out this either it looks like. And they probably should of, but hopefully it ends up moot. But I'm a bit concerned teams are gonna tack on more IR cap hits this year and aren't planning rnoigh space accordingly.

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I doubt a blue line extension is very viable. You need daily ridership, not a one off extension to an entertainment district. There is probably some viable rail projects for intercity urban areas and long distance HSR, but for intermittent medium to low density transit, buses and BRT are probably the best bet.

Exactly. Obviously creating an entire little village hopefully helps the congestion by spreading out arrival/departure, but I'd be shocked if it's much more than 5k who ultimately take some form of mass transit outside of like 2 miles from Arlington Park, including the train. I think that entire line does like 40k weekday daily riders and that stop 1.8k. I'd be curious how many riders took that stop on racetrack days, but I'd be shocked if the total line/stop capacity isn't way more limited than people believe.

How on earth is that better than Arlington Heights? They both look to be about the same distance from downtown. Certainly not by mileage. It is closer. Although I was mistaken before and it's serviced by a metra not an L stop. Anyways when I originally brought it up, I was much more thinking about it having been an option during the negotiations around the SF renovation. But hell, I don't understand why the McDome plan failed either.. Just because it was a dome instead of outdoor? The article bringing up Comiskey is interesting. The ideal would have been to make them a package deal in the early 90s. Now it seems like it would be awkward with the way Comiskey is positioned on the lot. It's possible I guess, but probably not ideal. Arlington Heights is pretty clearly better than Southworks now though. Southworks Pros: 1. Closer to density of Chicago 2. Slightly better transit. Although no L line, the proximity to downtown probably lends itself better to things like bus traffic (maybe even BRT routes) Cons: 1. Environmental cleanup cost Arlington Heights pros: 1. What it loses in density proximity to Chicago it probably makes up for in proximity to wealthy NW and North fanbase. 2. Much easier to deal with AH city than Chicago as far as negotiating any land use. Cons: 1. The Metra stop is very likely overrated. That line doesn't have a lot of traffic today and I don't think we can assume it will just traffic 20k fans or something. It's a car-centric development.

The Denny Green AZ game, where he stole the ball from the RB and Tillman took it for a TD. I think that pretty much drove poor Denny insane and the resulting press conference after the game is legendary. That's the one I really remember. for me, that one comes to mind, the fumble return at the falcons in his second year (although all he really did was pick it up and run), and just him chasing vick around in that freezing cold 2005 game when rex took over at halftime. one that also always comes to mind but wasn't that big of a deal was his TD catch when he lined up at TE... i think that was against the redskins in 01? FG fake I think. That might be one of my most favorable Lach moments which is kinda weird.

I don't think the gameplan against the Raiders is altogether bad. I'd like a few more shots down the field and if they do get a lead I'd like to see them be more agressive, but between the Lions and Raiders games you can see a plan/scheme that works coming together. Key to limiting Rodgers is getting a rush with 4. Which they've been doing. If they can do that and drop 7 consistently, they can hold Rodgers to a few scores.

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Summary of deep pass attempts yesterday.

Packers point differential on the year, (2). Not an upset. 8-) (yes I know the Bears point differential).

Sure a Herbert like season would be incredibly boner producing but perhaps just as a point of reference, Josh Allen didn't have his first 300 yard game until week 1 of year 3. Now actually, if it takes Fields THAT LONG, it would be pretty bad since Allen was very raw coming out, but I'm okay giving it until at least the bye week before I get concerned about how much Fields is throwing the ball.

Some good points. And I know you’ve already agreed with me about the playcalling today but it’s the perfect example. Why be so predictable on 3rd and short and let 2 drives die because you running it straight between the tackles? Why run on like 90% of your first downs. Let fields do a little more and maybe we put away that game in the 3rd quarter Yea, it would probably require a rewatch. Maybe there was a little of the Raiders purposefully taking away the deep game. In which case the running game wasn't actually as good as it looked today. If at some point a team wants to sell out for the run, I think Fields will burn 'em deep. But I don't think there's anything harmful about Fields development of letting this O take what Ds will give them at this stage.

Well they lost so...

Also important, IMO, not letting Herbert cloud judgment out of jealously for how quick he's doing it all. Lots of great QBs came along slowly as rookies. Fields doesn't have to be Herbert to be a franchise game changer.

No, I don't think you sound dumb, I just think that Fields is gonna throw the ball down field really well if he has time and the best way to get there is probably extra blockers which is gonna work out for both big passes and running, and teams aren't probably going to stack the box to stop the run and risk Fields burning them deep. Also if this D keeps playing bend don't break we may just have less drives. It all kind of seemingly adds up to low passing attempts to me. But it is probably their best chance at winning football.

I also get that this is a particularly meatbally fanbase whose first instinct is to cheer for 3 yards and a cloud of dust. But this team can run. And to be a run first team in today's game I think you need multiple guys who can do it (or Derrick Henry) , and they actually do!

I don't know, teams are averaging like 4.5/carry against the Pack and it's clearly this team's strength too. Hopefully they find some more downfield shots, but this is probably going to be a low pass attempt team at its best this year and I'm actually okay with that. I think the D is capable of holding the Pack to a few scores. I just feel like eventually we’re going to be in situations where we can’t play this kind of football and expect to win. This isnt 1998. Plus ultimately I just want to develop fields this year, not give him the 2005 Kyle Orton game plan. I know this is an outlier but look at Herbert coming in and averaging 300 yards per game. Our circumstances are a bit different but playing as conservative as we were today bothers me. Let Fields throw, he’ll make some mistakes but whatever, he’ll learn from them and ultimately both Fields and the Bears will be better for it. Yea they were too conservative today. But they aren't going to dink and dunk their way to 300 pass yards successfully either. And if the run game is picking up big chunks they just aren't going to get a ton of throws. So just hopefully they are using a big chunk of those throws on big plays. If they pass 300 yards a game it's because they fell behind early. That's just who they are this year.

I don't know, teams are averaging like 4.5/carry against the Pack and it's clearly this team's strength too. Hopefully they find some more downfield shots, but this is probably going to be a low pass attempt team at its best this year and I'm actually okay with that. I think the D is capable of holding the Pack to a few scores.

Ugh, horsefeathers.

All these massive TE on the roster and it's Jesper on the goal line. :lol:

We gotta stop bringing up the past and quit the witch hunts. What these young guys said 10 years ago when they were....*checks notes* 48 years old, don't reflect who they are today. You had me in the first half, I’m not gonna lie Oh sure he was 48 years old you say. But we have to understand people where there are in their life experience. Back in 2011 Gruden had only spent *checks notes* 19 years as a coach and commentator in a sports league that is *rechecks notes* 68% black.

Technically, they traded Elton Brand for Chandler and picked Curry... so they never really had a chance at Gasol, since the Clippers owned the 2nd pick. And from what I read in "Boys Among Men" by Jonathan Abrams (about the prep to pro generation) Krause only made the deal for Chandler after Gasol was picked at 3 and he knew he could pair Chandler and Curry Eh, I guess he chose the combo, but obviously if he wanted Gasol he could have done the deal direct with LA for Brand. I guess he was worried that Chandler would go 3 and he couldn't pair Gasol and Curry? Well benefit of hindsight it's not like Chandler would have paired with Gasol and the next two picks were Batteir and Richardson. I'd take either. But hey that's hindsight. He swung for the fence. Curry ended up being lazy and overweight and Chandler's supposed offensive potential was wildly overrated.

Uh I was trying to think of a franchise that wasted good QB play. While I was predicting a decade of 8-9 finishes with a #6 seed sprinkled in now and then But then is his doom boner independent of Fields or is Fields just a continuation of the same doom boner. If they're the Fischer rams it's the latter.