David

fwiw that's nothing new with him

dfa sogard at least

i remember camp as a mixed bag. when the hype got loud was when he came out in his first preseason game.

Most of the Trubisky stuff in camp/preseason was fairly lukewarm, right? I wonder if it's one of those things where glowing reviews don't necessarily tell you a guy is going to be good, but a lack of glowing reviews is an early sign that he won't. funny you ask, as i was just reading this in the athletic... https://theathletic.com/2589892/2021/05/14/justin-fields-looked-sharp-in-his-bears-debut-sure-it-was-only-rookie-mini-camp/

it's just rookie minicamp, obviously, but this is about as fun a football read as you can have on may 14th...

Since this was being talked about yesterday...

bears getting a crazy amount of island games they'll be hitting the ceiling annually if fields pans out into what he very well could be

lol imagine going into game threads (especially during the game)

For anyone who has a sub, this was a great read.

Not fair comparing a middle reliever to starters, though. not sure what this is a reference to

yeah there's basically zero chance fields starts and the fan base clamors for andy dalton lol

touche Granted, my confidence is based solely on the fact that my theory about Pace/Nagy and their future together based on McCaskey wanting continuity seems to be coming true this year. I always thought they'd get a shot to draft a QB together. I think they will have a chance to develop that QB. It seems fairly obvious Dalton was brought in to start a couple games as a competent veteran until the rookie is ready. Nagy loves the Mahomes got to sit and learn storyline. All they really have to do is show progress on offense this year. So, if they lose a couple games with Dalton early as the defense takes a step back, but then go to Fields and the offense looks interesting, they are coming back in 2022. i think it's the most likely scenario, but all the same, i am not THAT confident in it. i'm like 75% that dalton starts 3-4 games and then that's it.

if you're that sure of that, you can get pretty reasonable betting odds on dalton as the week one guy bc the books aren't that convinced (he's the favorite but far from a lock). I'd rather wait until the first "Fields lights up training camp" tweets. touche

if you're that sure of that, you can get pretty reasonable betting odds on dalton as the week one guy bc the books aren't that convinced (he's the favorite but far from a lock).

gonna have this one circled on my calendar if i can manage to get tickets.

:dontknow: hope so

no real running game? i mean, it may or may not be very good. montgomery was pretty damn good last year. but i'd say there's enough there (plus with cohen back and herbert looks like a guy you can plug in there too) to qualify as "real" whatever that really means. and robinson, mooney (to say nothing of guys like miller - who has been a disappointment but seems talented enough to be *fine* as a 3rd guy on the depth chart) is as good a WR tandem as I've seen the bears have short of the marshall/alshon years. then there's guys like byrd and even dumb ass wims who are cromulent relative to their spots on the depth chart. kmet may or may not turn into something but i don't hate our TE situation. i guess my qualm is with calling those skill position situations "extremely limited." maybe i'm a little biased because of how bad the bears historically have been on offense but i think they're far from devoid of guys to get the ball to. they're far from stacked like the chiefs or anything but yeah. this is an org we've watched go into seasons with scrap heap roy williams and devin hester as a #1 WR. those teams were extremely limited in weapons. this is just kinda maybe average-ish or maybe much better with a good QB. And of course it's also possible that Fields, not Dalton is who will maximize those other skill players. I get this ultimately ends up being a ton of counterfactual arguments here, but it's worthwhile to be agressive with Fields and Jenkins developments. I don't particularly think eithers draft slots is that reflective of their talent and the Bears were incredibly luck to get both. Use 'em, IMO. Now sure Fields has to bear out Dalton. And Jenkins. I guess Wilkerson? But presumably they show undeniable skill and compentanct over the playbook. Let's go. i think fields is going to immediately look so head and shoulders better than the two other dolts in camp that he's going to make it very hard on them. everything he's great it is stuff that will absolutely shine extra in camp, especially against two shlubs like those. good luck getting the team bought in on andy dalton after they get eyes on fields.

Yeah, Stafford has put up consistent numbers against the Bears with no run game or WRs at times and certainly never had this type of defense. i'm pretty interested to see what stafford and mcvay look like without one arm tied behind their backs.

no real running game? i mean, it may or may not be very good. montgomery was pretty damn good last year. but i'd say there's enough there (plus with cohen back and herbert looks like a guy you can plug in there too) to qualify as "real" whatever that really means. and robinson, mooney (to say nothing of guys like miller - who has been a disappointment but seems talented enough to be *fine* as a 3rd guy on the depth chart) is as good a WR tandem as I've seen the bears have short of the marshall/alshon years. byrd should be a decent speed/taylor gabriel-ish guy. kmet may or may not turn into something but i don't *hate* our TE situation. i guess my qualm is with calling those skill position situations "extremely limited." maybe i'm a little biased because of how bad the bears historically have been on offense but i think they're far from devoid of guys to get the ball to. they're far from stacked like the chiefs or anything but yeah. this is an org we've watched go into seasons with scrap heap roy williams and devin hester as a #1 WR. those teams were extremely limited in weapons. this is just kinda maybe average-ish or maybe much better with a good QB. edit - forgot about damien williams in that RB room. he's a solid guy to have in the rotation too.

yep the lukewarm responses by some have me judging people really hard. This rocketed up into the top 10 weirdest things posted here. Nah if you don't like this broadcast team or think it's just okay, you have objectively bad taste and I'm not sure if I want to be your friend

yep the lukewarm responses by some have me judging people really hard.