David

Of course, Peyton IS prominently on the cover of SI. :twisted: Plus, he posted these in the Saints thread and it didn't seem to hurt too much.

A good amount of people think the Bears victory was a turnover-fueled fluke. They think the Saints just gave us the game with their mistakes.

I can't wait until the Bears shut some more idiots up on February 4th. It's one thing to favor the Colts. That's fine, but the blatant disregard for the Bears' chances in this game is flat out ridiculous. I want the Bears to shut some more of these jerkoffs up.

TBS, unless they've got a new contract with MLB or something this year, only does Braves game. They're to the Braves what WGN is to the Cubs. My best guess is those 2:55 games are the second half of a Fox Saturday double header...

Push. Yeah, I tend to agree. If someone has a edge here, it's probably pretty slight. I would have to agree-the RB's are dead even. Maybe I'm being a homer, but I think the Bears RBs are better...but thats not taking a lot away from the Colts RBs who I think are good. I think Jones and Addai are about a push, but I think Benson is better then Rhodes Agree completely.

I don't see why they would cut him. What's the point? Every team needs a #3 QB.

no waye u trade gordon or deng for gasshoel looool give em noc, pj, and the knicks pick

I agree. I really hope he has a fantastic game, wins the Super Bowl MVP and shuts everyone up. I think one of his solid 220 yard, 2 TD, 0 INT games would probably take it, unless Hester ran a couple back or one of the defensive guys or RB's had a MONSTER game.

Just poking fun at the people who like to respond that all Major Leaguers are obviously good at baseball because they've made it to the Majors...

Dude, Erstad isn't bad because I say he's bad, he's bad because he isn't very good at baseball. If he hits .280 I'll be stunned, because he's done that twice in the last 6 seasons. If he OPS's .750 I'll be more stunned, because he's also only had an OPS above .700 twice in the last 6 seasons, and one of those 2 was a .702 OPS. I don't think I need to explain why the Gold Glove and Silver Slugger awards are meaningless crap. Again, do you have anything at all other than your dismissive tone to suggest Erstad isn't terrible? I'm still waiting. Cue somebody completely missing the point and saying that anybody in the Major Leagues must be good at baseball because they're in the Major Leagues.

Forgot to mention, haven't seen if anyone has already posted it, but Ruben Brown will be going to the Pro Bowl. http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=2978

Just an aside, I really wish we could successfuly branch a Bears site off of this one. Unfortunately, I don't think Tim is a Bears fan. It's too bad, though... Probably, the best Bears discussion I find on the internet is in these threads. We tried to get one set up last year. Uber did a bunch of the graphics. A few of us were mods. We just couldn't generate the necessary traffic to get discussion going. I'm probably about as much to blame as anyone for that.

Of course, they've been playing just a little bit different of defenses in the playoffs :D ..but then again, that will also be in the case in the Super Bowl. Manning has had a tough test-the #1 scoring defense at their place, the #2 at his place, and now the #3 on a neutral field. Manning's statistics are pretty deceiving, as he's actually played pretty well throughout the playoffs (so has Grossman btw). It could come to QB's, but it certainly might not. Ok-a different question-how do you think the Bears will try to guard the Colts receivers? Who do you double? Whether this is good or bad, the Bears don't often double cover anyone. They tend to try and just do what they do. It usually works out. We'll see, I suppose, how it works in this game. It didn't work against Steve Smith, but that's probably an extreme example of a receiver that can really take over a game on his own. Another question... How big of a factor is Devin Hester in this game? I think he might, in fact, be a big reason the Bears win the game, if the Bears win. The x-factor, to cite an overused cliche. Coupled with the Colts' lackluster coverage unit, Rex and the Bears should see short fields a lot in this game, and Hester may also run one back on his own.

Case in point - the playoff game against the Seahawks...although his rating in that game was more below average than terrible.

All that proves is how many stupid people there are that follow football. Grossman did more good things this season than any of those QBs did throughout their careers. I would completely disagree with that. The best numbers of all of the QB's on the list so far: Eason: 61.6% completion percentage, 23 TD/8 INT, 3328 yards, 7.5 Y/A, 5 TD's rushing Ferragamo: 59.4% completion percentage, 30 TD/19 INT, 3199 yards, 7.9 Y/A, 1 TD rushing Woodley: I don't want to embarrass him by posting his numbers-let's just say he's the worst QB to ever make a Super Bowl Dilfer: 56.2% completion percentage, 21 TD/11 INT, 2555 yards, 6.6 Y/A, 1 TD rushing Grossman: 54.6% completion percentage, 23 TD/20 INT, 3193 yards, 6.7 Y/A, 0 TD rushing To predict that Grossman will have a better career? Fine. To say that Grossman has done more this season than those QB's did in their entire careers? With the exception of Woodley, absolutely not. Eason and Ferragamo's seasons blow Grossman's out of the water, and Dilfer's is a little better as well. Taking Grossman's season numbers as a whole is very convenient. It's also extremely misleading. I'm not sure there's many QB's where you could take out their 3 worst games, and their numbers would go from this: 262 of 480 (54.6%) 3193 Yards 23 TD 20 INT 73.9 Rating to this: 240 of 412 (58.3%) 2982 Yards 23 TD 10 INT 89.3 Rating And that's not to say you can just throw out those games. It's meant to illustrate that his overall numbers don't really tell you very much in terms of his game to game performance. A few (3) REALLY bad games turned his stats from very good to just below average.

Could that possibly have anything to do with the fact that when the Bears have a big lead, Grossman is already having a good day, and when the Bears are behind (which hasn't been all that often this season), he's been having a bad game? Stats like that are ridiculous. As is the stat that refers to his rating in 4th quarters. He's sat out a good deal of the 4th quarters of his big games. The Bears have also consistently ran the ball and ran out the clock at the ends of games in which they've had leads. I hate these situational stats. They're just as absurd in football as they are in baseball.

For the record, I hardly think that a poll asking for the worst QB to ever make the Super Bowl proves a national media bias against the Bears. For the record, I do. It's a joke to even see Rex's name included with those players. Do you guys even realize how bad those other guys were? Do you? Grossman has more talent in his left foot than these bums.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I can't decide if he wants to downplay the importance of it (Peyton has never wanted to talk about his injuries when he has had them, of course they've never been serious enough for him to miss a single game in his career) or just a little bit of gamesmanship. I think it's the former, but I can't be sure. I wasn't aware that Peyton told Sorgi to "be ready" until I watched the NFL Replay last night. Since he was able to continue in the AFC Championship, I don't think it's a big deal. He pretty much had to continue in the AFC Championship game. But, all during that time, he kept working the thumb to avoid it tightening/swelling up. It is when you quit working it that it tightens up and causes a problem. But, with nothing showing up on x-ray and 2 weeks to heal, he'll probably be fine. Whether he'll still be fine the first time he gets hit hard is another question. X-Rays don't show much in terms of ligaments and tendons though. I'm going off the fact he continued afterwards, and played well. Things can be done to reduce swelling and pain just for the duration of one game. Honestly, if the Bears can't get some pressure on this guy I think we're in trouble. I do think the Bears offense can do a few things, but that defense will need to at least limit the Colts to a dull roar. True... they can numb the pain. But, if he's still in pain for that game, numbing the pain means numbing his whole thumb, on his throwing hand, and quite possibly a decent sized portion of the surrounding area... I can't imagine that's very helpful in terms of throwing a football.

It's unbelievable... Look at the names on that list. It's ridiculous. Yet, some people would still have you think that there is no national media bias against the Bears.

He mentioned that when they got him. I'm thinking that was before they signed Lilly and Marquis though, no? Regardless, there's really no need for three lefties in the BP. I still think one of them is a strong cadidate to get traded, along with Jones. Yes it was before those signings but there is still an open 5th spot on the starter depth chart. I suppose there is. I guess Zambrano, Hill, Lilly and Marquis are pretty much penciled in right now with Prior, Miller, Guzman, Marshall, Cotts, etc. all being candidates to take the fifth spot (or possibly bump Marquis if more than one really impresses). Man I hope Prior is ready. That rotation could be pretty awful with out him. And it could be pretty great with him. Amazing what a difference one guy could make.

I think he did something similar in the 49ers game this year. Could be wrong, though.

Crap, don't know why i had Izzy listed as a DT in that scenario. He'd be back at the ends with Tommie and Dusty back. I'm not sure what Scott's free agent status is (RFA or UFA), but I'd like them to keep him if it's not too costly.

Peterson could be just find as a change of pace back. The reason I'd trade Ogunleye is that he's the oldest D end on the team. It's not that I want to get rid of him, but he hasn't been as good as I'd hoped he'd be, and with Anderson around, Wale seems to be the expendable one on the line. Not to argue whether or not we should keep Wale (I'm sort of on the fence about that), but if they do, the Bears are going to have amazing depth on the line next year w/Dusty and Tommie. Brown, Wale, Anderson at the ends... Tommie, Tank, Dusty Dvoracek, Scott, Idonije, Boone at the tackles... Wow :shock: Then, I'd like to pick up a safety and some offensive line help in the draft. Maybe a tight end. Perhaps a QB (just because) in the later rounds. They need to phase in some young o-linemen over the next few drafts.

Just an aside...some food for thought. Grossman's biggest games (the 100+ rating games) have come against Cover 2 defenses (decent ones and bad ones). He faces the best one in training camp and practice. The only one he really struggled with was Minnesota's, and Minnesota seemed to be blitzing more than the other Cover 2 teams. He's facing a bad Cover 2 in this game. I don't think he'll have a lot of trouble picking it apart.