Bote McBoteface

Firefox. I had never heard of Opera before this. I tried it out, liked it a lot....but no adblock mean I can't use it.

Yeah but if we get a free agent we might win a playoff game next year.

Of course not. Xbox has a terrible baseball game. This is MLB08, its PS3 exclusive. All Pittsburgh has to do is propose Wilson for Arod and keep adding crappy players until the interest bar is half full.

I'd take the 150 to play for the WS contender.

What if Harden and Sheets are out at the same time? Marshall can fill one of those spots adequately, but who would jump into the other slot? If we sign Sheets we'd almost have to keep Marquis around or get another Marquis-like guy. Unless Lou forgives Gaudin for drinking beers.

Isn't Bonds still facing jail time possibly?

Well, yeah. It does kinda matter.

Cool. Since we're keeping Derosa, lets sign Bradley ASAP.

Wait. Aren't you the guy who advocates sliding headfirst, into first, because it's faster? No no, he conducted a scientific study involving college students and stopwatches to decide that sliding FOOT first into first base was faster than running through or going head first.

Why not just save ourselves some money and give Marshall the 5th starter spot, trade Marquis and get Bradley/Hermida and Furcal? Marshall will perform no worse than Randy Johnson would, our rotation is already a strength and there is no real need to spend big to upgrade it.

Darn, I was hoping the Yankees would miss out on every one of their top choices and finish in 4th place this year.

I wonder if we could send Z to the Phillies and have them send prospects to the orioles who then send Brian Roberts to the Cubs as part of the Peavy 4way trade that is apparently in the works.....though obviously we'd keep Derosa in that situation. ..though that situation will also obviously not happen.

This deal needs to be finalized so that I can stop refreshing this damn topic every other second :/

...I could have sworn that Wilson was traded to the Tigers?

I'd rather not have this thread go on for 400 pages. What did the Brian Roberts thread end up at? 309 pages. RIP Brian Roberts thread <3

Man this sucks, NSBB was down like all day. I figured maybe it exploded after the Peavy deal was finalized, but it was still pending a physical so none of the major news sources were reporting it. Now it comes back up and all I see is some BS about the deal being on life support, followed by how its back on now. Stupid Brian Roberts thread Jr.

Offer him a coaching job now please.

I guess we'd kind of deserve that for that whole Jim Edmonds thing.

Cant we just pretend we never signed Marquis and hope that he forgets to show up for spring training?

Shoulda just given him a lifetime contract.

Man the Giants are really, really dumb. Howry will probably have a pretty decent year, but almost 3 mil for him?

Sweet, with him aboard I'm sure we'll win a playoff game in 09.

I said Harden, Zambrano, Dempster (only because we can't trade him since he just signed), and Soto. Trading one of our pitchers would defeat the purpose of getting Peavy, and Soto is too sexy to trade.

Peavy is signed thru 2012 at 14.5m, 15m, 16m, 17m, with a club option for 22m in 2013. Harden's 7m is nowhere near that expensive. All 5 players SD would get in this deal total less than $9m, a big savings from $14.5m for just one player. Harden does, however, give them reasonably fair talent return for Peavy. This is not a pure salary dump, the Padres need a decent return, or the Peavy trade would have already been made to either us or the Braves. From our perspective, Harden is signed only thru 2009, whereas Peavy is locked up 4 or 5 more years. How can you value 1 year of Harden as being equal to 4-5 years of Peavy? We also are not giving up nearly all of our prospects as you claim. Oh wait, I see you have edited that. Glad to see that you recognize that we are not giving up a lot of prospects in this proposal. The issue is trying to trade for Peavy. San Diego has passed on our efforts to get him for Vitters and the usual suspects. We have to give up something substantial to get a guy like Peavy, don't you think? If you want to just pass on the Peavy idea rather than consider trading players like Lee and/or Harden, OK, but I think we need to face the fact that we aren't going to get a Peavy if we are unwilling to trade a big chip or 2. If you think San Diego would do the deal with Marshall and/or Wells substituted for Harden, great, lets try it. I just doubt if that would get it done. Yeah I saw a big list of prospects and assumed they were from our system. I realized the mistake pretty much instantly and edited it out, I was hoping nobody saw it. Still though, I'd much prefer to keep Harden, and although Harden's deal is small compared to Peavy, it still is 7 mil while Peavy is making, what, 9 mil this year? Long term though, yes youre right it is saving them significant money. I'd prefer to keep Lee, too, if possible. But I'd be much more willing to part with him than Harden. (Although Lee has a NTC and I'm not quite sure he'd be happy to waive it.)

The Padres are cutting payroll. They do not want to add Harden's 7 million. The deal doesnt really do anything if we include Harden anyways. Well, except for take away two very good prospects, plus our 1st baseman.