Transmogrified Tiger

What? Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season? According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml Yes, I was going on memory, which is falable obviously. Anyway, I like him and his big ears when he pitches. I like him a lot as well. Especially when they flashed up that K/BB ratio on the screen last night. I'm a little concerned with the heavy usage of late. Not sure if his late intro to pitching is a good thing or bad thing as far as health is concerned. This came up in the game thread, and a quick look showed that Marmol really hasn't been used all that heavily. He's had 30 appearances(~35 IP off the top of my head) in 58 games(which with off days is less than every other day), and recently has thrown 3 IP in the last week. It seems like more because often he finishes one inning and goes into another, but I don't see a whole lot of cause for concern.

But that's not true. August - End of Season 2004: .254/.348/.563/.911 2005: .237/.370/.438/.808 2006: .176/.299/.346/.645 I didn't say *each* of the last three seasons, I said *over* the last three seasons. Weight those three OPS numbers by plate appearances, and you get 797. Ergo the conclusion, over the last three seasons, Dunn's OPS for the months of August and September is below 800. Put it this way -- if we knew for sure that the Cubs would get one of those three numbers from Dunn (911, 808, 645), then the enthusiasm level around here would decline dramatically. You averaged them? I'd say that's not very intellectually honest. Your original point was implying that Dunn was not as good a hitter down the stretch. Given that time-driven splits aren't reliable to begin with, there'd need to be a consistent drop in performance for it to have any merit. That obviously hasn't been the case. To use an average is to put extra emphasis on the outlier of last year. As far as "trend lines" go, given what I just said about the reliability of timed splits, there would have to be some sort of cause for him to somehow be declining in his ability to hit after the deadline. Unless there's something you can point to that would cause him to heavily wear down after July, we have to assume that last year is an outlier.

How about because it's 11:30pm and I would like to save a few keystrokes, and I wrongly thought people would get my meaning instead of jumping all over me for every little thing? I don't think it's nitpicking, it's the crux of the entire thread. There have been many posts in this thread trying to clarify people's positions(and the misunderstandings of these positions) on Murton and the RF situation. If you're going to try to characterize someone else's position, I'd think a bit of attention isn't too much to ask considering how the thread has gone.

How many times to people have to say this isn't the case? Calm down, it's a figure of speech. "I'm not yet going to buy into the idea that Murton is a lock to be an everyday, productive outfielder for many years until I see more." Happy? Not particularly, it's still putting words in a lot of people's mouths. And even then, why go off the deep end when characterizing someone else's argument?

How many times to people have to say this isn't the case?

Performance-wise, Lilly is right there with those guys.

Nails.

cmon, get Lord Scrapford von Gritt to 6-4-3

Get the ball down.

It appears this guy calls it a strike out of reflex anytime someone attempts to steal. Like a SB toll or something.

Pagan with the Corey Patterson special that AB.

Good stuff, Howry.

Rolen's shoulder is cooked, just get it over

Hey, Pagan is in the game, I learned something. Wait, then why didn't he PH for Floyd?

Is 35 innings in nearly 100 games pitched that many? Serious question... Since he wasn't even up for the first 50, I would say yes. Plus he pitches two innings most of the time. He's now thrown 35 IP in 30 outings over 57 games + off days. Isn't that a lot of work for a young arm? I don't know, but it sure seemd like it. I don't think so. I think it seems like more because he's had a lot of 1.1 or 1.2 IP outings where he comes in to close out an inning and then goes another, so it kinda seems like he's getting used more.

Is 35 innings in nearly 100 games pitched that many? Serious question... Since he wasn't even up for the first 50, I would say yes. Plus he pitches two innings most of the time. He's now thrown 35 IP in 30 outings over 57 games + off days.

What'd I say, waaay out in front of that one.

Marmol is about to dominate Pujols something fierce

Marmol's thrown 2.2 IP over 3 outings in the last week, he's fine to come in.

Checked a Padres board and saw oblique strain.

Yeah, Z was in the windup and had nearly broken his hands by the time Molina asked for time. You can't expect that.

I kinda want to see Fox here.

I am amazed that LaRussa didn't pull Wells before the Ramirez AB. The man lives to make pitching changes and he waits too long with someone of Wells' caliber?

This year at least. That's got to be at least 3, right?

Make it hurt Mr. Singles, just hit it in a gap.