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  1. This is a bunch of anecdotal crap. If you look at Vazquez's stats that go along with these wild accusations you're throwing around, you'll see that his pitches per inning pitched is pretty much dead average among starters, and his "after 0-2" stats and later pitches/later innings statistics are among the best in the AL. Not really sure how calling a post a "bunch of anecdotal crap" can make it through here but oh well. Look at his stats the last three years. ERA's of 4.91, 4.42, 4.84. ERA+'s of 92, 99, and 96. He has always had a problem of the one bad inning. You're telling me that it's a bunch of anecdotal crap that this latest stretch isn't an aberration? He's a very average pitcher; nothing more and nothing less. You're going to have to do better to convince me otherwise besides saying that my post is a bunch of anecdotal crap. ERA alone isn't going to do a whole lot to prove the point. Look at his K and BB numbers, he's well above average.
  2. yuck :?: Vazquez is a good pitcher with a below average contract given the market. Too bad we couldn't take him on with the ownership situation, because I'd deal for him and use Marshall as a chip to get a big bat. Vazquez used to be good and spent the better part of the last few seasons being mediocre at the very best. He's having a good year this year, but the 3 previous years are enough for me to say "yuck" to giving up a lot to get him. Mediocre at the very best is selling him quite short. Including 2007, 4 of the past 5 years he's had at least 8+ K/9, 3 of the past 5 he's had a K/BB over 4(and another year he was over 3). He's always given up more longballs than ideal, but those are some very good peripherals. To compare, there are only a dozen MLB starters(including Vazquez) with a 4+ K/BB this year. Only 21(including him) strike out 8+ per 9 innings. Vazquez is legit.
  3. yuck :?: Vazquez is a good pitcher with a below average contract given the market. Too bad we couldn't take him on with the ownership situation, because I'd deal for him and use Marshall as a chip to get a big bat.
  4. hardballtimes.com
  5. Replacing Hill with Gallagher/Holliman/Dempster/bargain bin refuse is an enormous dropoff, you know that.
  6. Let me give you some standard complaints... Clearly the power has already gone to your head. Why am I being singled out? Serena started it, you should talk to her. She's the problem. I figured you'd merge it but I thought I'd start the thread anyway. And by doing so exposing my inability to perform such tasks as merging a thread? I won't be made a mockery of!
  7. Thanks! As an display of such new abilities, I'm going to (attempt to) merge this with the Announcement thread Serena started.
  8. What? Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season? According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml Yes, I was going on memory, which is falable obviously. Anyway, I like him and his big ears when he pitches. I like him a lot as well. Especially when they flashed up that K/BB ratio on the screen last night. I'm a little concerned with the heavy usage of late. Not sure if his late intro to pitching is a good thing or bad thing as far as health is concerned. This came up in the game thread, and a quick look showed that Marmol really hasn't been used all that heavily. He's had 30 appearances(~35 IP off the top of my head) in 58 games(which with off days is less than every other day), and recently has thrown 3 IP in the last week. It seems like more because often he finishes one inning and goes into another, but I don't see a whole lot of cause for concern.
  9. But that's not true. August - End of Season 2004: .254/.348/.563/.911 2005: .237/.370/.438/.808 2006: .176/.299/.346/.645 I didn't say *each* of the last three seasons, I said *over* the last three seasons. Weight those three OPS numbers by plate appearances, and you get 797. Ergo the conclusion, over the last three seasons, Dunn's OPS for the months of August and September is below 800. Put it this way -- if we knew for sure that the Cubs would get one of those three numbers from Dunn (911, 808, 645), then the enthusiasm level around here would decline dramatically. You averaged them? I'd say that's not very intellectually honest. Your original point was implying that Dunn was not as good a hitter down the stretch. Given that time-driven splits aren't reliable to begin with, there'd need to be a consistent drop in performance for it to have any merit. That obviously hasn't been the case. To use an average is to put extra emphasis on the outlier of last year. As far as "trend lines" go, given what I just said about the reliability of timed splits, there would have to be some sort of cause for him to somehow be declining in his ability to hit after the deadline. Unless there's something you can point to that would cause him to heavily wear down after July, we have to assume that last year is an outlier.
  10. How about because it's 11:30pm and I would like to save a few keystrokes, and I wrongly thought people would get my meaning instead of jumping all over me for every little thing? I don't think it's nitpicking, it's the crux of the entire thread. There have been many posts in this thread trying to clarify people's positions(and the misunderstandings of these positions) on Murton and the RF situation. If you're going to try to characterize someone else's position, I'd think a bit of attention isn't too much to ask considering how the thread has gone.
  11. How many times to people have to say this isn't the case? Calm down, it's a figure of speech. "I'm not yet going to buy into the idea that Murton is a lock to be an everyday, productive outfielder for many years until I see more." Happy? Not particularly, it's still putting words in a lot of people's mouths. And even then, why go off the deep end when characterizing someone else's argument?
  12. How many times to people have to say this isn't the case?
  13. Performance-wise, Lilly is right there with those guys.
  14. It appears this guy calls it a strike out of reflex anytime someone attempts to steal. Like a SB toll or something.
  15. Hey, Pagan is in the game, I learned something. Wait, then why didn't he PH for Floyd?
  16. Is 35 innings in nearly 100 games pitched that many? Serious question... Since he wasn't even up for the first 50, I would say yes. Plus he pitches two innings most of the time. He's now thrown 35 IP in 30 outings over 57 games + off days. Isn't that a lot of work for a young arm? I don't know, but it sure seemd like it. I don't think so. I think it seems like more because he's had a lot of 1.1 or 1.2 IP outings where he comes in to close out an inning and then goes another, so it kinda seems like he's getting used more.
  17. Is 35 innings in nearly 100 games pitched that many? Serious question... Since he wasn't even up for the first 50, I would say yes. Plus he pitches two innings most of the time. He's now thrown 35 IP in 30 outings over 57 games + off days.
  18. Marmol is about to dominate Pujols something fierce
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