They really aren't that young outside of Arcia, Hader and Philips/Brinson. All the guys that carried them last year were older and had career years (Anderson, Davies, Shaw, Santana, Thames, Sogard, etc) most are big regression candidates for me personally. I agree with that. I'm speaking organizationally. They had 7 guys in MLB's top 100 at the end of last season with others who could pop this year (Lutz, Peralta, Bickford, Gatewood. etc.). And they've got a pretty good group of young players on the major league roster. Knebel (26) was a really good closer for them. He's under control thru 2021. Nelson (28) and Davies (24) along with Hader (23) if he joins the rotation as rumored form a solid group of young controllable starters. Travis Shaw (27) is under control thru 2021. Santana (25), Arcia, (23) and Brinson (23) form a nice core of young, very good players with Villar (26) a strong bounce back candidate. If the Cards trade away a good chunk of their farm for 2 years of Ozuna and 1 of Machado, I'd say the Brewers would be in a better long term position. No real threat to the Cubs as things stand now, though, just "gaining" on them and improving as an organization. I don't have time to find the post where I tried to say this more eloquently, but they basically have to thread the needle on all those guys to make the advancement they need to make to get to the Cubs' level. They aren't at risk of falling off to 60 wins or anything, especially with the Pirates waning, but they're basically hoping to have enough young guys be sustainably okay so they can be the 2017 Cardinals and win 85 games. They don't have the stars unless someone like Hader or Brinson way overshoots their likely outcome, and even then they have to make up for Nelson's star turn last year because his arm exploded.