Also, if we're talking about the bigger picture with roster construction or forward-facing expectations, I want to reinforce that 17 games just doesn't mean much, especially since the team isn't at some extreme like being 29th in runs or 2nd in IsoP, whatever. As a founding member of the "Schwindel is LaHair with a goofier smile" brigade, I've had to intentionally avoid making much in the way of declarations of his uselessness, because we're talking about less than 3 weeks of games, and coming off a lockout and abbreviated spring training. There isn't a magic line where all of a sudden with one more game everything becomes meaningful, but especially at the macro level I think you'd need some more extreme results(e.g. the Reds) before you claim the season thus far is the new norm, otherwise it's the type of conversation that's best waiting til Memorial day. This applies to the good stuff(Seiya, Thompson, the veteran relievers) too.