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  1. You honestly believe that even with the fact that Maddux's ERA, though rising the past few years, is still better than those two guys? And the fact that's he's well on his way to another 15+ win season while those two can't put back to back good starts together? You'd honestly feel more comfortable in our chances of winning with them on the mound than Greg Maddux? I don't even know why I'm still in this discussion. It's bordering on insanity. Yes, I do feel more comfortable with those 2, because they aren't going to be much worse(if not better) than Maddux, while we have 9 million more to improve elsewhere. That's the difference between a J.D. Drew, and a Danny Bautista, to pull 2 names out of thin air.
  2. Actually there's plenty of reason Maddux will decline. His ERA is up for the 4th consecutive year, His BAA and OPS against have been going up since 2000. On the other hand, pitchers like Williams, Mitre, etc. are very likely to improve as they approach their prime. Add in the fact that there is a 9 million dollar disparity between them, and I'd say that the team is better off with the young guys.
  3. Numbers from 2 years ago are much more relevant in predicting future performance for the 23(!) year old Williams, than the 39 year old Maddux. Mitre's haphazard starts are not indicative of his true ability, and he's still only 24. That doesn't even include Hill, Nolasco, Pinto, who would have to beat them out. Nor does it include Rusch, who could be back at a much cheaper price than Maddux, at a younger age, and has outproduced Maddux as a starter with the Cubs.
  4. It would take almost 30 of those pitchers to equal just Maddux's salary. They are bouncing up and down from the minors because there is no place to put him with our outstanding pitching. Several of these guys(Mitre and Williams for sure) would be starting from the get go on a lot of teams. Williams has a career major league ERA lower than what Maddux has done as a Cub, and the rest of the farm hands are capable enough that the best of them could be a quality starter. Again, even if they are a slight downgrade, the money saved to spend on other places makes it worth it.
  5. Several differences. Dubois hasn't been given a chance to just have the job, otherwise we might be singing a different tune about LF. Also, with the SP situation, you aren't pinning your hopes on just one player. Mitre, Williams, Hill, Pinto, Nolasco, Wellemeyer are all guys who are competing for the spot.
  6. In that same time, he's posted a 4.19 ERA, I think one of our farm hands could do that. What gives you that idea? Past performance by those farm hands, plus the sheer quantity of them. Even if they were slightly worse, the savings would still make it worthwhile. Past preformance indicates that they preform at a lower level. I suppose I'm not willing to accept a reduction in preformance to save a few million dollars in a professional sport that doesn't have a salary cap. So what do Minor League numbers mean? They are very accurate indicators of Major League performance when put in proper context. There's no salary cap, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't operate on a budget. The Trib puts limits on how much Hendry can spend, so he should be as efficient as he can with the money he is alotted.
  7. In that same time, he's posted a 4.19 ERA, I think one of our farm hands could do that. What gives you that idea? Past performance by those farm hands, plus the sheer quantity of them. Even if they were slightly worse, the savings would still make it worthwhile.
  8. In that same time, he's posted a 4.19 ERA, I think one of our farm hands could do that.
  9. I guess we'll extend it, so we can get some more of them in. The only purpose for the deadline was just to make sure they got in in a timely manner. I may not have internet access for several days after today, so if you send your entry, don't worry if I haven't bolded your name.
  10. Obviously the injuries are a factor, but that's the risk you took with him, and IIRC his problems popped up after his extension. Last year, although he was limited to 140 IP, he still posted a 1.2 WHIP with over a K an inning and nearly a 3/1 K/BB ratio. Wood is very good once healthy. IF his injuries are behind him, he will be well worth his contract.
  11. Brenly has gotten progressively worse, IMO. I have really struggled to see what all the hype was about. He certainly is comfortable on the air, but the analysis is severely lacking. Agreed. Thankfully I'm able to tune him out most of the time.
  12. I'm not sure that's true, but even if it is, it's true for a LOT of pitchers. Some of that is a generalization while most of it is true. I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wins as consistantly and is as durable as Greg Maddux. Regardless, this doesn't really matter because the amount we might be overpaying is insignifigant. I would put this issue among issues such as uniform color, Wrigley Field grass length, and opposing Managers' parking availability in terms of important issues that need discussion. It's not nearly that trivial. If the choice between having comparable production from Maddux for 9 million or a farmhand at the minimum is out there, you have to try and get rid of Maddux. That's nearly 10% of the payroll, not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination. I see what you're saying there. But why isn't anyone talking about trying to get rid of Wood for a cheaper option? I know Maddux is near the end, but he's still productive, probably more productive than any farm guy you can bring up right now. Because Wood is worth his contract, his problem has been health. If he's healthy, he's worth it, if he's not, he's untradeable. Maddux is serviceable, but I really think Mitre and Williams are close to him in production, certainly worth the dropoff to free up 9 million to use in other places.
  13. Maybe because they're thinking about performance going forward, not what they have produced? Dunno. I'm pretty sure when they signed Maddux, they were looking forward expecting 15 wins a year. Same thing with Wood. So far, only one of those guys has delivered. I'm not sure how well I can express how little it matters to me how many games each player wins. If they perform, they perform, there are too many factors that go into wins for me to use that to evaluate pitcher performance.
  14. I'm not sure that's true, but even if it is, it's true for a LOT of pitchers. Some of that is a generalization while most of it is true. I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wins as consistantly and is as durable as Greg Maddux. Regardless, this doesn't really matter because the amount we might be overpaying is insignifigant. I would put this issue among issues such as uniform color, Wrigley Field grass length, and opposing Managers' parking availability in terms of important issues that need discussion. It's not nearly that trivial. If the choice between having comparable production from Maddux for 9 million or a farmhand at the minimum is out there, you have to try and get rid of Maddux. That's nearly 10% of the payroll, not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination.
  15. Would anyone else support Len in a solo booth? I think it might be better than him and Brenly if he could pull it off.
  16. Maybe because they're thinking about performance going forward, not what they have produced? Dunno.
  17. Len > Chip Stone >>> Brenly However, the fact that Len is more important to the team(i.e. he talks more) helps.
  18. I'm not sure that's true, but even if it is, it's true for a LOT of pitchers.
  19. Wins are a terrible, terrible metric to measure pitchers. There are a host of pitchers who could equal Maddux's production for less than he's making.
  20. Who did I get into that argument with? God, that was funny.... :lmao: The infamous auggiedoggie. Walker must have stiffed him for an autograph Patterson-style or something, he lived to rip Todd.
  21. LISTEN TO TODD, DUSTY. I've been calling for Walker-Barrett 1-2 for weeks.
  22. 4 of the 9 entries in. Try and get them in ASAP if you haven't.
  23. Last day to get your entries in. Those that have been submitted thus far are well done.
  24. Sure, you can edit it up until tomorrow night's deadline. The idea is to come up with the best trade ideas possible, don't want to discourage any new revelations. Just make sure that I can understand what your final entry is.
  25. It worked in the Wizard of Oz... So does that make Hart the wicked witch? [obligatory Macias reference]Macias is probably Toto.[/obligatory Macias reference]
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