Transmogrified Tiger

Horton? Over Foster and Shannon Brown? Even over Butler?

Brunner and Augustine over Davis? I mean I expect the coaches to ignore Foster in lieu of Dee in the same way Cy Young voters love wins, but Davis was robbed.

You could say our best 3 hitters too...

If tomorrow it came out and then 10 years later they died, I'm sure one of the topics discussed upon their death would be the negative sides of their lives. Kirby has not been worth talking about for quite some time. Unfortunately this has been the first time in a while his name was discussed, and people are rehashing what they remember of him. When Steve Garvey dies, people aren't going to just talk about the positive. but if people want to remember him for being a great ballplayer, who cares about the rest? Does it make him a worse player? Does it tarnish his HoF plaque? There's a difference between remembering a great ballplayer and calling him a hero, which is what originally started the disagreement.

Underclassmen?

It looked to me like it was mostly Alfonzo's fault, turning and throwing blind. It was a bad decision, but if Omar is anywhere near the base he's probably at least able to get a glove on it and keep the run from scoring. The runner was on third, wasn't he? Ah, I guess he was.

I'm not an expert on the minors, but it seems from what I've read here, we don't really have the prospect package to compete with a lot of teams. Is that accurate? We have the talent to acquire Cabrera. Other teams would be able to trump us if they wanted. If we're the ones that are going all out and there's not much mention of other teams, it appears other teams aren't willing to do that.

It looked to me like it was mostly Alfonzo's fault, turning and throwing blind. It was a bad decision, but if Omar is anywhere near the base he's probably at least able to get a glove on it and keep the run from scoring.

whoops

Guillen didn't seem to be very fleet of foot on that blooper, especially for a SS playing 1B.

Aramis backed out of the WBC.

Tough question, because the pool of players you're looking at is diverse. When looking at a prospect, I'd say he'd need pretty good minor league offensive numbers. Nothing outstanding, even for the position, but numbers that would probably net them a starting role if they repeat them in the bigs. Mike Fontenot(.272/.377/.430 at Iowa last year), although he doesn't play shortstop, is a decent example of such a player, although even someone with say a .350/.400(OBP/SLG) would work depending on their full body of work(physical tools, fielding ability, full minor league history). In the case of a more journeyman type player, Neifi sets an appropriate baseline, as very few players find themselves on base as little as he does. Again, not to say blindly dump Neifi for a guy that has similar numbers but is a couple years younger, the other factors previously mentioned play a role. Also, for the record, I advocated going after Furcal/Lugo/etc this offseason, because I wanted Cedeno in Neifi's role this year. That gets Cedeno more major league time and he is still able to help the big league club, then he either moves to 2B(if you get Furcal and Walker departs to FA) or takes the full time SS role(Lugo leaves for FA). It also keeps dead weight like Neifi off the club. But the Cubs are stuck with Neifi, and the rest of the nightmarish moves Hendry made this offseason, so I guess I can dream that Neifi goes crazy and gets himself moved.

Do you think Neifi is a horrible backup middle infielder? I don't think he is. Yes. What do you expect from a backup middle infielder? His VORP was 6.6 (OK, not good) with ++ defense. I'm not sure I agree that his defense is "++", some defensive metrics(PMR) rate him down the chain a little bit, certainly not enough to make up for his atrocious offense. Speaking of which, I expect a little more than one of the worst hitters of the generation on my team's roster. IF that type of production is inevitable, there's good reason to avoid Neifi He's been sucking for a long time, at least with someone who is younger(whether that be a prospect or another player of Neifi's caliber in his prime years) you have the potential of offensive improvement. Neifi's a known black hole, and at his age he could get worse. He's also overpaid, and is a crappy veteran with a manager who loves him for dumb reasons("he saved us", pitcher chats on the mound where pitchers probably want to punch him in the face, etc.) and will use him even beyond the role he shouldn't be in. 1) Admittedly defensive metrics are still in their infancy however most I've seen rate Nefei as a very good SS. 2) Nefei's contract and manager isn't his problem - it's Hendry's. Again, what do you expect from a backup middle infielder? I told you. Someone who isn't an offensive abomination, and if we are forced to accept a defensive oriented guy who can't hit, at least get someone younger with the potential to give you something, anything at the offensive end. The rest that is out of his control was tacked on to the end to why he's particularly bad for this team.

It really is a shame that there is no true RF for the US, and that someone of Chipper Jones's caliber has to sit while Randy Winn plays.

I never understood this. I've wondered this for a long time, and I need someone to clarify it for me. Why do most sports articles I've read have [] in them? What, did a player totally leave those words out, and the writer is inserting them back in? I mean, did Neifi actually say. . . In this case, Neifi probably said "he" where [Cedeno] is. Since it's not a full quote, the reader doesn't necessarily know who Neifi is talking about.

Do you think Neifi is a horrible backup middle infielder? I don't think he is. Yes. What do you expect from a backup middle infielder? His VORP was 6.6 (OK, not good) with ++ defense. I'm not sure I agree that his defense is "++", some defensive metrics(PMR) rate him down the chain a little bit, certainly not enough to make up for his atrocious offense. Speaking of which, I expect a little more than one of the worst hitters of the generation on my team's roster. IF that type of production is inevitable, there's good reason to avoid Neifi He's been sucking for a long time, at least with someone who is younger(whether that be a prospect or another player of Neifi's caliber in his prime years) you have the potential of offensive improvement. Neifi's a known black hole, and at his age he could get worse. He's also overpaid, and is a crappy veteran with a manager who loves him for dumb reasons("he saved us", pitcher chats on the mound where pitchers probably want to punch him in the face, etc.) and will use him even beyond the role he shouldn't be in.

Do you think Neifi is a horrible backup middle infielder? I don't think he is. Yes.

I don't really see the venom, but please remove Neifi from the team.

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Reguardless of what you thought of the man, that may be the tackiest thing that's ever been posted on this board. Yes, I agree, that is pretty classless. Insensitive, yes. Classless, yes. I just don't see the point in waxing poetic and fawning over the death of someone who if he wasn't a millionaire would be in jail. Why honor a man who cheats on and assaulted his wife and openly got away with both. I take it you have no problem with marijuana possession then? after all, if you did, then Darryl Kile is fair game, right? I believe I have heard you rant many times about any mention of Darryl Kile's death. I also believe I have heard you rant many times that McGwire is innocent until proven guilty of bad things. put the two situations together in one man, and this is how you act? noone is expecting you to wax poetic, but you are doing just the opposite. you are insulting and disrespectful about the death of a man who brought joy to millions. if you had a problem with Puckett and the allegations laid against him, that's fine. but if ever there was a time to shut your cakehole about it, that time is now. I think you have Wolf confused with someone else.

Choi/Hill/Montanez/Teixeira

Do you want the list of teams PMed to you Bukie, or just posted?

Player page According to ESPN, he has appeared in one ST game for the Marlins. EDIT: BA notebook from late November(subscriber)

Lunardi has them as a 5 seed in Salt Lake right now. It'll be tough for them to move up a whole lot, because there's not much of a quality win in the B12 tourney to be found outside of Texas.

How do you have an 11 man first team? That's ridiculous.