Team results have zero implication on who the best players were. It's that simple. Did you think Lee should've won the MVP last year? Baseball and basketball are completely different sports. Trying to compare them is useless. Baseball isn't a team sport, basketball is. Numbers don't tell you the story in basketball nearly as well as they do in baseball. You can have a bunch of "me" guys who don't play defense or make other guys better, but put up great numbers. Teams don't win in the Big Ten with those players. MSU underachieved miserably. They went 8-8 and lost two home games. Yeah I know those guys put up some big numbers, but where did they take their team? They had the most talented threesome in the league. If those guys had such great years (while Nietzel also had a solid year) and were deserving of first-team All Big Ten, why did MSU finish 6th? I appreciate statistics. I read Big Ten Wonk, kenpom.com and The Mid-Majority report. But I also watch a decent amount of basketball and watched a ton of Big Ten basketball this year and saw 8 Big Ten teams (all but NW and Purdue) live at Carver. Numbers do not tell the whole story. Daniel Horton was one of the best players in the league this year and was better than Jamar Butler. He meant far more to his team. Brunner carried his team. He was the only guy in the league putting up a double for most of the year and led the league in rebounding. Without his toughness, production and leadership there's no way Iowa finishes 11-5. Paul Davis carried the most talented team in the league to an 8-8 finish. If he had Brunner's attitude and toughness he would be All-American. Instead he leaves MSU with a history full of underachieving in the conference and being voted the most overrated player and biggest crybaby in the league by his peers. So you're saying the difference between Brunner and Davis caused the differential in the standings? Who performed better this season? This stuff about toughness and attitude is nonsense. I could just as easily say that Davis has a better attitude, more fire or more toughness or whatever, and point to specific examples of him proving such. It's a pointless, meaningless, arbitrary value. Also, if you read Big Ten Wonk, you should know that MSU's brutal schedule(worst possible schedule you could draw up) basically cost them a win relative to the conference standings. What would the difference between Iowa and MSU be if Iowa had to go to Michigan and Ohio State while MSU hosted Minnesota and went to Penn State? Baseball and Basketball are different sports, but the point remains. You don't evaluate players based on how well their teams did, you have to isolate the player's performances. And it's pretty clear that Davis was the superior player.