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  1. raw
    But you still allowed your team to play a game in the middle of a season with a lame duck coach that everybody knew was lame duck. This team has not only sucked with their personnel decision, but timing has always been awful. You make the move Sunday night and announce it Monday. Short week is meaningless, unless you are cleaning house of the entire coaching staff, which they are not going to do. You can't make this decision, see it leaked and discussed all week and then play Thanksgiving Day without addressing the issue. Firing him Friday doesn't negate the lack of response throughout the week. I get what you are saying. My point of view is though, if it's true, then it's just as (if not more) damaging to come out and deny the report on Monday and still fire him on Friday. It's slightly different from the old "vote of confidence" before firing someone just because of the specifics given in the reported rumor. Of course, it sounds like this is all untrue so my hypothetical is probably moot. And it's certainly not like it's above this organization to be incompetent.
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    But if this IS his last game, is the response really lacking? Absolutely. It's been widely disseminated that he's all but gone. You have to address that. Letting a lame duck coach a Thanksgiving day game is a laughably terrible decision. Letting the coach and special teams coach be the only guys that face the media on this issue, plus ARob in his preemptive press conference, is cowardly. A member of the front office has to step in here and say something. I agree with all of that. But if it is true, and Nagy is fired on Friday then isn't that addressing it? They won't just send a press release. They'd have to have a press conference and address the leak then. If it's not true, then yeah that's disasterous. Hell, it's terribly handled either way, but I guess I'm saying firing him and making the report true kinda makes the last 2 days of handling this OK. Just say, "yeah, we're sorry it got out. Matt was a professional in handling the situation/working on Thanksgiving, blah blah blah".
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    But if this IS his last game, is the response really lacking? At this stage, I'd probably at least issue a like 2 sentence statement denying the report. But also, ooof, if they pre-determined the firing and only held on cuz of the short week. And then someone let it leak and didn't even let it get leaked in a good way. If it's true though, then denying the report looks worse when you fire him on Friday. Plus, it's too late for that now with a day having passed and the game being a day away. And I don't think the leak itself is that big of a deal. It's not a surprise that Nagy could get fired on Friday. The issue is how it was leaked, which I'm not all that concerned about.
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    But if this IS his last game, is the response really lacking?
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    He's clearly trying to distance himself from Nagy in this situation. The stuff on the broadcast with Romo and how "teams were calling the Bears to trade for their players". Him staying away from making a statement on these rumors. I think Pace's fate is still undecided, but I think they are more tied together than I originally thought. I also don't know why there would be egg on their faces. Everyone knows he's getting fired. He almost got fired after a playoff appearance last year. 3-7 definitely isn't even debatable if he stays. If they lose tomorrow, fire him. Nobody will fault them for firing the coach that gave the Lions their first win on national TV. If they win tomorrow, frame it as a mutual parting of ways. Blame the rumors and stress on his family w/ the chants at the kid's game. He's going to get fired anyway. Who cares if it leaked? Who cares if it's ugly? If everyone knows it, get it over with. Don't leave him and the players hanging on just for the sake of history. Try to salvage some development under an interim coach, get a jump on everyone else in the league in the next hire. Sure it sucks for Nagy and embarrassing the way it came out, but there's not a good way to get fired.
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    Maybe he's just quitting?
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    I would honestly hate that outcome more than just letting Pace keep his current role. Letting Pace be a creeper sniffing around and undermining the new guy is just ugh. Yeah, the more I think about this, the more I hate it. He's a personnel and staffing decision guy. That's all the experience he has (besides scouting, which would be a big demotion). If not involved in personnel decisions, he has no other expertise to really add to the organization. I thought maybe he could be heavily involved in the Arlington Heights stuff, but he's only slightly more qualified to oversee that than I am.
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    precedent doesn't make it not stupid I go back to Hatley running the draft when everybody knew he was gone the next week. It's dumb. on one hand it feels like his firing has been building for a long time and inevitable, on the other hand the situation feels knee jerk I'm ready to move on. I feel disappointed in what I thought Nagy would be but never was, but I'm done watching what Nagy has become. What's knee jerk about it? It's been a complete clown show since camp and the handling of the media with the Fields, Jenkins and other situations. Started off decently, another 5 game losing streak, had 2 weeks to build on the best performance of Fields' career and he drops an all too familiar dud against the league's worst pass D.
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    Some fun stats for this one. Bears are in the midst of their FIFTH 5-game losing streak in the last 12 years. The Lions have had multiple 8 game winless streaks in the last 3 years, and an uncountable number of 5-game losing streaks. After winning 15 of his first 21 games, Matt Nagy's Bears have mirrored that by losing 15 of their last 21 (both include playoffs). The Lions last win was Dec 6th, 2020 against our very own Chicago Bears.
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    Another underrated mistake about the whole extra point situation was taking the penalty on the PAT and going from the 1 instead of the 2. The play called was a pass, which would work just as well (or better) than a pass from the 1. Nevermind the fact that the pass itself was horrible and wouldn't have worked anyway. Could have skied the kick and forced a return, with good coverage could have made them start inside the 20.
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    Thats pretty low on my list considering everything. Considering game situation I think overall Run/pass split was fine and it's not like Montgomery wasn't having success. I get the complaint but I also think the Bears ran way too much early on based on the opponent they are playing. Monty was playing well and we didn't need more running. I believe I also saw Herbert running back kicks as well. I still can't believe we played the worst pass D in the league (by yardage allowed) and Fields threw 7 passes in the first half. Yes there were at least 3 RPO's called (all runs) and yes he got sacked 1-2 more times on drop backs but still way too many called run plays, particularly on 1st down. I think every first down except 1 in the first half was a run. I don't mean just getting him the ball in the run game. You had 1 1/2 capable WRs, throw the ball to the backs out of the backfield. Do something to get the ball in playmakers hands. Not just yesterday, but in general. Kmet only had 1 touch too. And I didn't/don't mean to make a big deal out of it, but it's another one of those Nagy things that makes him a terrible coach. It's the same way he couldn't figure out how to get Mike Davis the ball when he only had a then mediocre rookie, Montgomery running the ball. It's nitpicky, but just another "guy is over his head" example for me.
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    One underrated thing that annoyed me yesterday.... Khalil Herbert had 1 touch. This is the dude that held the run game together for a few weeks while Montgomery was out. You have your top WR out, so short on weapons. Herbert is probably your 3rd or 4th best weapon yesterday (not including Fields himself).
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    I honestly don't think it means a whole lot. 2019- Mitch got hurt in the first series. 2020- Mitch was benched because he was bad, not because he was ill prepared. Foles did some great things, but he was allowed to sling the ball all over the field with a huge deficit 2021- Dalton got explosive play TDs on a screen pass and a blown coverage. Other than that he was 9-21 for like 90 yards.
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    I don't see any scenario where Nagy is the coach next year, unless you think 7 in a row to end the regular season and a playoff win are possible. And if you know in November your coach isn't going to be around next year....then cut bait now. I will say, they aren't going to fire him with a short week. And as bad as they are, they probably won't lose to Detroit. So, I think that AZ/GB stretch will do it. There's not much chance this Bears team keeps that GB game close, and with the coaching hire window opening earlier this year, this has gotta be the year a move is made before the season is over.
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    Something about the logo on the polo. Bears have lost 8 in a row after the bye. Nagy, Fox, Trestman (he did win the last post bye game though) all lost after the bye. Just like offense, it's not possible to do for the Bears organization.
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    Yeah, a lot of reasons I wanted Lamar to play. This is one of them. Another is my undefeated fantasy team has him as the QB. Also I wanted Fields to compete head-to-head with him. I know it's not a direct competition between those two, but I think Fields was really looking forward to the matchup. Also, not gonna lie, a Bears loss wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I'll never root for them to lose, but there are rumors than an embarrassing L means the first in-season firing in franchise history. Plus, I don't care if the Bears give up a top 5 pick to the Giants. Having a 2nd round pick very early could be huge in a draft where you can get 1st round talent in the 32-37 pick range at the Bears positions of need (WR, OL, CB) or it can create great trade down opportunities for a team with many needs and just 2 early picks right now. I’m sorry did you say trade down? Pace is going to package that pick to trade back into the first round if he’s still the GM I'm operating under the assumption he won't be the GM or that he has learned from his mistakes. He got his QB and LT so no need to trade up for any other position (I know he has also traded up for RB, WR, FS, etc).
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    Yeah, a lot of reasons I wanted Lamar to play. This is one of them. Another is my undefeated fantasy team has him as the QB. Also I wanted Fields to compete head-to-head with him. I know it's not a direct competition between those two, but I think Fields was really looking forward to the matchup. Also, not gonna lie, a Bears loss wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I'll never root for them to lose, but there are rumors than an embarrassing L means the first in-season firing in franchise history. Plus, I don't care if the Bears give up a top 5 pick to the Giants. Having a 2nd round pick very early could be huge in a draft where you can get 1st round talent in the 32-37 pick range at the Bears positions of need (WR, OL, CB) or it can create great trade down opportunities for a team with many needs and just 2 early picks right now.
  18. raw
    Lamar officially inactive. Huge break for the Bears, which seems weird to say for a team missing Eddie Jackson, ARob, Mack and Hicks. But a decent chance of getting 2 backup QBs in a 5-day span. Even if Goff plays, it's still Goff and a winless team. 3-6 at this moment but probably should be 5-6 by Thanksgiving dinner. I know nobody wants to hear it, but 2 wins put the Bears back in the playoff hunt.
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    Well, that kinda sucks. Trevis Gipson, time to step up and prove the Bears can cut bait with one of the two massive edge contracts sucking up cap room on the roster. Yep. Gotta stick with the plan. I didn't really care how good Quinn played this year, you have to cut bait with him this offseason. He started the year on fire, has slowed down a little bit but still decent. But you simply can't keep a 32-year old, non-versatile, edge rusher around at a 17Mil cap hit. Without Mack, he probably won't play well enough to justify keeping him. I'd also rather give snaps to Gipson and Snowden than waste them on Bruce Irvin, but whatever. Cut as much money tied to aging players as you possibly can this offseason. Quinn, Trevathan, Graham, Foles, Hicks, Dalton, Tashaun Gipson, Goodwin, Ogletree, etc. Get younger on defense. Spend money on offense. Profit.
  21. raw
    They really lost the bye week. SMH
  22. raw

    NFL Week 11

    raw replied to UMFan83's topic in Other Sports

    By the same token, if the NFL is going to truly expand, they almost have to expand internationally. With 36-40 teams, you run the risk of oversaturing the US market. Like i don't think a 2nd Chicago team would work as well as most think. I don't love Portland, St Louis or San Diego as destinations really either. I know there's been KC and STL teams together in the past and SD and 2 LA teams at the same time, but part of the appeal of the NFL is so few games and so few cities to catch a game.
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    NFL Week 11

    raw replied to UMFan83's topic in Other Sports

    Putting an actual team in NYC makes a ton of sense. But I think if they did expand to 40 teams for some reason (hate this idea), then there would definitely be 2 European teams at the least. Maybe even have 4 of them to form a division and make the travel/bye week schedule easier. Thinking 2 in England (both in London or 1 in Wales). 1 in Germany. And I think Ireland would get the other as they hosted a college game a couple years ago. NYC/Brooklyn St Louis London 1 London 2 Germany Ireland San Diego Monterrey
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    To be fair, Mack hasn't practiced since Week 3 and has only missed 2 games.
  25. raw
    Sounds like playoffs I want this to happen so bad. Just make a whole mockery out of this 7th seed thing. Win-win. Nagy doesn't do well enough to keep his job. Fields gets playoff experience. Giants only get the 20th pick (with a 1st round loss) despite being almost as good as them.
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