If we're assuming Clemons' first year on the juice was 1997 and Bonds' was 2000, then I'm not sure i agree with his premise in Clemons' case. That would have been a pretty Albert Belle-like peak and flame out. But regardless, there's a major flaw in his reasoning - There's no proof whatsoever that Sosa was on roids from 1998 to 2001. There's also no proof whatsoever that Bonds wasn't on roids prior to 2000. It's all guess work. @ the Clemens stuf....what in the world? He won an MVP, 3 Cy Youngs, had 2590 Ks, 100 CG, 38 Shut outs, through age 33. Six 8-win seasons, eight 6-win seasons, plus another 5 win and 4+ win season (from 84-96). Pretty much a no doubt HOFer. ETA: How does someone flame out when their last season over the sample you are looking at had a 7.6 WAR (1996).