I would say, if you think keeping Dusty Baker is the answer, you're twice as delusional. Replacing Dusty is one of many answers. He's the wrong manager for the wrong team. I said it before he was hired and I haven't seen anything resembling evidence to the contrary. Goony, I've restored the complete text of my original post. If you think that I'm advocating keeping Dusty Baker.... please quote my post again and highlight where I said, implied, or even infered that we should keep Baker. The thesis of the original post, and the title of this thread, is that firing Baker is the answer. I am merely trying to point out that when you replace Baker with [fill in the name of the world's best baseball manager here], the 2005 Chicago Cubs are NOT a contender. Now, if you really think I'm delusional..... then simply tell me what manager can take this team to the playoffs, and I will gladly retract all. I'm pretty sure when both Houston and Florida were scuffling in recent years, before they got new managers, people realized a change in manager would positively affect the team, light a fire etc. The players are failing on the field yet, but the managers failures, i.e, last nights lineup is much more easily fixed, than putting a bat on a baseball. Now give me a bat and i'll take it to dusty's head to knock some sense in to him.