I think it's tough. I want to see Murton alot, but Holla has been on fire .444 or something like that over the last two weeks - he was the only guy hitting. I think giving 2 to the youngster and 1 to holla isn't a bad set up. and Jon- I'm just saying pitch counts used to not be a big deal, 120 used to not be a big deal. I wish it returned to that. I think Z has some input on whether he wants to stay in or go out as long as he isn't giving up a ton of hits. In between innings, I'm sure Dusty asks him how he's feeling - and if you rmember against the White Sox, he told Dusty he was tired so Dusty pulled him. I don't think we know what happens in the Dugout sitting on our computers.