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Plus, we've all seen foul balls deflected after hitting a few upstretched bare hands. I really don't want to be in the path of a hard hit ball after it was deflected by a guy two rows in front of me, but if I am in the path I definitely want a glove. IMO, if you're reasonably facile with a glove and you are sitting along the foul lines, I see nothing wrong or embarrassing at all in bringing it. You are decreasing the risk to you and those around/behind you who might not be paying enough attention, or do not want to deal with a foul ball coming their way. After it's deflected, it's not as dangerous. I want the glove for the balls that are smoked right at me. If someone else wants to be a tough guy and barehand screamers, that's their prerogative. If I am in the bleachers or way up in the terrace or mezz, I don't bring one. I am talking about right down the lines, from the dugout up.

Good for you.

They're a pain in the ass to lug around at the bars afterward? I don't go to bars, and if I am sitting along the lines, I want the glove to defend myself from line drives.

Ryan Braun breaks his wrist on a bases loaded HBP and Ben Sheets throws a 150 pitch CG 1-0 shutout. better throw in some injuries to cardinals too, just for some security Well if we are going to be sick and wrong, I would go for Sheets' shoulder blowing up mid pitch, with the errant fastball going into the NL dugout, scattering Braun (who blows out his knee during the evasion) before obliterating what is left of Pujols' elbow, causing him to fall violently to the ground, right on top of Ryan Ludwick, wrenching his back and slipping a few discs.

Damn Soriano and his late-inning outfield orgies. I know, they would even shock Caligula.

It would be funny if some team played Madonna songs over the PA whenever ARod came to bat.

Refer to Raw's post about IsoP. Greene's OBP sucks because his AVG sucks and his AVG sucks because he's a flyball hitter in Petco. He's had some good and bad years in terms of IsoD. The case can be made that Greene should be a better hitter for another team. The case can also be made that he is what he is, a guy who will hit for above average power but struggle to keep his OBP above .320. Ok, now I think we're on the same page. I'm not sure I want him as anything more than a backup. Might be better off with Cedeno if that's the case But is a guy who OPS' .800 with a .310/.490 (a fair projection for Greene @ Wrigley prior to this year) worse than a Guy with a .765 with a .395/.370 (Theriot's approximate 2008 numbers) split? I guess it depends on how you prioritize. I am concerned with Greene because his numbers are so far out of line with his career numbers, and he is having his worst season by far following his best. I'm really not sure what to make of it, but I am sure the reasons aren't encouraging. He could be hurt, he could be sick of San Diego and not giving 100% (which would tell me he has poor mental makeup) or he could have been figured out (unlikely after 4 seasons of fairly consistent production). I don't buy 1/2 a season of bad luck, and the guy's not old at all. Who knows.

i hate to beat a dead horse, but i really don't know why people persist with this fallacious nonsense. find me any statistician/sabermetrician who is willing to reconcile just simply throwing half of your sample in the trash. and if we're just not concerned with sample sizes, well then hell he's showing to have a 528 ops true talent level at this point in his career. Are you talking about dismissing the fact that Petco has drastically suppressed offensive numbers across the board (AVG, SLG, Runs, OPS, etc.) for both home and visiting teams for its entire existence? That we can ignore the fact that nearly every San Diego Padres hitter who has played in the park has had fairly extreme home/road splits favoring the road, and vice versa for their pitchers? If so, that's fallacious nonsense. It would make things simpler if we could look at numbers independent of their context, but that would be a very myopic form of analysis. No one is saying to throw his home numbers completely out, but you can very reasonably project a marked improvement in overall numbers for any San Diego Padres player who moves to a more hitter friendly park. And I could find you a truckload of sabremetrecians who would agree with that. It's like Coors reversed. You can go back and look at all the numbers, there isn't much room for selective interpretation. If we are having this discussion in March, 100% of ML general managers swap Theriot in favor of Greene without hesitation, I promise you. His splits indicated he would benefit greatly from a change of scenery, and his numbers were trending upward right at the age you would project them to. Having said all that, clearly whatever is ailing Khalil Greene this year goes way beyond park factor. No one could have reasonably predicted it, but it would definitely make me think more than twice at this point.

Poor patience, but big power being obscured by Petco. He's guy you could stick in the 7 hole and get a .500+ SLG out of in the vast majority of MLB parks. His OBP sucks, but his SLG would offset that. That was before this year, anyway.

I agree, but that still doesn't account for how bad he has been this year, unless he just isn't trying. I think the Khalil Greene of 2004-2007 is an .800+ OPS guy in most parks.

Unless you think Theriot is even an average defensive SS. But Greene's unexpectedly craptastic offensive season makes it a moot point.

I would have felt differently had I been posed the question a couple months ago. His glove would be a massive improvement, though. Theriot has 11 errors, Greene has 7. Greene def. makes more 'OMG' plays though. Greene is one of my 25 favorite players in baseball, and would have no problem with him on the Cubs. Maybe if they send Ronny somewhere in a deal this could be a cheap pickup, and a nice backup to Theriot. It's not about the errors, it's about the balls Theriot can't get to that Greene makes look routine. And the throws Theriot can't make that Greene can. But Khalil has been awful offensively. It's a real reversal of statistical trend. Thats what I was trying to convey with the 'OMG' plays. I thought you meant flashy web gem type plays. I was talking about Greene making plays that look easy that Theriot wouldn't have a shot at.

I would have felt differently had I been posed the question a couple months ago. His glove would be a massive improvement, though. Theriot has 11 errors, Greene has 7. Greene def. makes more 'OMG' plays though. Greene is one of my 25 favorite players in baseball, and would have no problem with him on the Cubs. Maybe if they send Ronny somewhere in a deal this could be a cheap pickup, and a nice backup to Theriot. It's not about the errors, it's about the balls Theriot can't get to that Greene makes look routine. And the throws Theriot can't make that Greene can. But Khalil has been awful offensively. It's a real reversal of statistical trend.

Utley + short porch = win.

I would have felt differently had I been posed the question a couple months ago. His glove would be a massive improvement, though.

Dane Cook was OK when he was brutally murdered in Mr. Brooks. And only because he was brutally murdered. He sucks in every other role.

Sosa in Atlanta was the best.

I thought it was a given that CC would end up with the Dodgers or Angels. The Yankees can throw some money at him, but I expect the Dodgers to as well.

While Marmol may have lost a bit of movement (perhaps fatigue, a week or two off would do him some good, IMO), I don't think he's "broken". As bad as things were today, it was better than when guys were really squaring him up. I think he just a little bit off, and needs an extended break. Also, Carlos has had his problems throwing strikes all year (and last year), but his movement was enough to induce swings. Is it possible that hitters have simply resolved to take more pitches and let him get into trouble? And his reduced movement has exacerbated things? Now our good friend Ender says Marmol is just a slightly better version of Derrick Turnbow. Obviously, this is hyperbole. But let's not pretend he was feeding the strike zone, even when he was on.

I am pretty sure that Lou thinks that Carlos just needs to pitch it out, like a basketball player just needs to shoot through their slump.

The fact that we are all irate after a win speaks to how well things have gone. Even when the crap hits the fan we're still in good shape.

I am frustrated, but it's hard to be mad at Marmol.

I'll watch the Brewers-Reds game because I enjoy watching Volquez pitch when it isn't against us.

He's just having a senior moment. One in a succession.

Most of them had been keeping a close eye on the game, I think. Not that it matters.