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what a selfless act it is to sacrifice his own dream of winning a superbowl for a virtual feather in his cap. i really hope this new contract assures his continued cooperation with the media and openness with the fans who have helped make him the face of the bears franchise. he's such a thoughtful person, kudos to you, brian, you steaming pile of excrement. i hope age doesn't begin to restrict your amazing ability to shed blocks. I semi agree with this post I don't really agree with any of it. Brian doesn't appear to be an enlightened person, but he doesn't seem to be much of a bad guy either. He's ruined his own marriage and made a baby or two with a stranger, but it appears he's holding up his end of the bargain with those situations. I don't recall him getting into any meaningful trouble. I don't give a crap about his openness with the media or fans. He's been an elite player with the Bears for several years, and has only been slowed by the occasional injury, while playing probably one of the two most physically punishing positions in the game (RB being the most). i'd like a meaningful sound bite from him once in a while, other than a surly "yes", "no", or "i don't know". that's not simply being an un-"enlightened person", that's being intentionally disrespectful to the people who help pay his salary. i couldn't care less about his ruined marriage or his trail of illegitimate children. but, i don't like that fact that he tried to hold the franchise hostage after he volunteered to restructure his contract in order to re-sign briggs. it makes me think that he's given up on the team's success and wants to smash and grab whatever he can before he can't play anymore. Not to totally defend Brian (because I understand what you are saying), but I've seen interviews where he will give a little more info than normal. I think it's the day-to-day grind with the media that he gets tired of. Not an excuse, but that's my observation anyway.

Who cares about the timing of a thread. Howry has been terribly inconsistent this year and has sucked so far in July. He pitched in a close game and gave up another run late and somebody expressed concern. What's the big freaking deal? I wasn't trying to make a big freaking deal over it. I was just saying it was the offense that put up a goose egg last night. That's all.

In terms of W/L last night? It was most certainly unimportant. He didn't factor into the result of the game at all. I said if we're talking about whether Howry will be OK from here out that's definitely in question. This is crazy logic. Anytime a pitcher gives up more runs than his own team scores he doesn't factor into the result of the game? This is good news for all crappy pitchers around the league. Cool! A pitcher's W/L record means something then. Harden, for example, gave up more runs than his team scored last night and hence got the loss. What does that say about Rich, in your estimation? It says he pitched great whereas Howry once again sucked. Okay, fair enough. But my overall point is this: if we score just a nominal output of say 3 runs last night, this thread never gets made. I'm concerned about Howry. Of course. You'd be a fool not to be. There was always going to be some point where he was not able to pull his act together for the 2nd half. Looks like it might be this year. I just think the timing of this is a little off. Howry's been bad for awhile now. Last night was about the damn 0 on the board. With a well-rested Marmol we can likely work around Howry anyway. But certainly not if no runs are crossing the plate.

You need to do better at something so I'm not letting you practice it anymore. Maybe he is seeing a pattern of just "putting on a show" in BP instead of actually working on their games? Perhaps he is "taking away their fun" until they show they have come out of this slump in actualy game action? It almost like Lou saying: " No X-BOX or PS3 kids until your homework is done". Maybe he doesn't know what to do so he's trying something random. Not a real comforting thought, but that's what occurs to me.

In terms of W/L last night? It was most certainly unimportant. He didn't factor into the result of the game at all. I said if we're talking about whether Howry will be OK from here out that's definitely in question. This is crazy logic. Anytime a pitcher gives up more runs than his own team scores he doesn't factor into the result of the game? This is good news for all crappy pitchers around the league. Cool! A pitcher's W/L record means something then. Harden, for example, gave up more runs than his team scored last night and hence got the loss. What does that say about Rich, in your estimation?

I have some confidence the Cards will hit a rough patch. The Brewers though? I'm not so sure. They may have a streak of 10 games where they only win 5, or something like that. But a prolonged losing stretch of games? Anything can happen, but I'm not convinced it will in this case. They've now got too many starters that will go deep into games, covering for that bullpen. And they've got the offense to simply blow away most opponents.

In terms of W/L last night? It was most certainly unimportant. He didn't factor into the result of the game at all. I said if we're talking about whether Howry will be OK from here out that's definitely in question.

BINGO! Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th? Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him. Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem. How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time. First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong. What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base? Theriot was on 3rd. Forgot about Theriot. So they walk Aramis to get to Soto and then what? he hasn't been hitting anything lately either. He was a whopping 0 for 3 last night. Whatever dude. Howry sucked last night just like he's been sucking for the last two weeks. IMO he's a major concern over the next two months. Put it like this, I'm more concerned with Bob Howry than I am with the offense. He still wasn't the problem last night. The problem was the goose egg next to our name. Period. I know you said period, but is it ok if I still say that he was definitely part of the problem? Not when talking about last night only. No. We were already down by a run and would have lost 1-0 without Howry. How can a pitcher be any part of the problem when you only gave up 2 runs and the offense got shut out? Throwing around speculation about what would have happened at the plate if there was only a 1 run lead is exactly that: empty speculation. Concern over Howry for the rest of the year? Sure.

BINGO! Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th? Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him. Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem. How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time. First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong. What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base? Theriot was on 3rd. Forgot about Theriot. So they walk Aramis to get to Soto and then what? he hasn't been hitting anything lately either. He was a whopping 0 for 3 last night. Whatever dude. Howry sucked last night just like he's been sucking for the last two weeks. IMO he's a major concern over the next two months. Put it like this, I'm more concerned with Bob Howry than I am with the offense. He still wasn't the problem last night. The problem was the goose egg next to our name. Period.

Wait... what? How much energy are you wanting to see? Do you want him to ferociously dig his feet into the dirt before each pitch? I'm not down on Lee, but last night was frustrating that's all. It wasn't just Lee's DP, it was the whole damn night at the plate.

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs. Howry wasn't the problem last night.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_li9ZnTHkTH4/RiT09J4u5lI/AAAAAAAAAEE/mLgsNBkGTdg/s400/Spr05-p- Indeed. Pray for a quick return to form.

Our biggest need is offense. I don't care where we get it from, but we need to get it quickly.

And 3 or 4 as yet undetermined good offensive players who would 1) be required to make this team a contender, 2) would cost plenty of money to sign and/or keep, and 3) couldn't remotely be afforded as long as we continue to pump all our money into defense. But other than that yea I guess we're all set.

you could always see what happens. :twisted: I like to make an informed decision :cool:

you KNOW some brewer fan commentator is going to go, "sure the Cubs got Harden but he's 0-1..."

If I post the poop and it's my first offense, is that a Modzilla or just a delete post and maybe the rest of the night off? .....'cuz I really have the urge to post that right now.

Barf.

Finally a bit of favorable luck.

:rotfl: :rotfl: Oh come on vance grow a pair and post it. I don't want another vacation. Good thinking. :D Let's have a cat poop vote and if 2/3 say yes, it gets posted.

Hell, let us hit it hard. That's the best way to get outs against us tonight.

:rotfl: :rotfl: Oh come on vance grow a pair and post it.

game probably over. this is really bad.

It means the lowly Pirates are a much better hitting team than us at this very moment.

Howry off to a good start. Why bother, just give up a few more runs and end the doubt Bob.