Ugh, I couldn't stay out of this thread. Brock shouldn't be in the HOF therefore he shouldn't be a baseline for HOF OFers going forward. But the fact is, he is in the HOF. We can't remove those already enshrined, so the fact they are is relevant. Dawson if enshrined would not lower the caliber of player in the HOF. No, Dawson doesn't merit mention with the best or even an average HOF. But he is of the level of the lowest group of HOF player, as his comparison to Brock. Dawson likely was better offensively and defensively than Brock. If Brock is a HOFer (and he is), Dawson should be as well. If we can't compare him to current HOF, then compare him to players of his generation. Dawson surely makes the Hall on that standard. Maz is in. Therefore, Izzy should go. Maz: .260 .299 .367 Izzy: .259 .295 .336 Oh wait. Damn. Izzy can't quite slug at a hall of fame level!