On Z being a leader: As long as he performs - which he has - I'm ok that he may not be a leader (which I don't know either way). Every high-priced player on the team doesn't have to lead. On Z winning more than single digit games: He has won single digit games one time since 2002. That was this year and we were not a good team this year. Otherwise, every year he's been a Cub since he was age 21, he's won 13-16 games for us. Wins for a pitcher are also not a particularly good measure for how good that pitcher is. On Z being an above average pitcher: I used VORP here because that was a nice tidy, singular stat. If that's not good, you can use something else. In 2007, Z was 29th out of 139 pitchers who logged 100+ innings. If you expand that to 150+ innings, he remained 29th out of 90. In 2008, he was 39th out of 140 who logged 100+ innings and 36th out of 95 who logged 150+ innings. This year, he was 54th out of 126 who logged 100+ innings and 51st out of 82 who logged 150+ innings. Two out of the three years of his deal so far, he's been well above average to very good. One year he's been average in VORP. He hasn't quite pitched up to his contract, but he's certainly not a bad contract. On putting Z on the open market: I'd be ok with that if he brought a very substantial return. I wouldn't just dump him for anything, though. If you count Kosuke as a corner outfielder, he's a below average hitter and an excellent defender. If you count him as a center fielder, he's a below average fielder and a very good hitter. He was also paid $11.5 million this year, a large sum no doubt, but not that huge in today's environment. He'll be paid $13.5 the next two years. In OPS, Kosuke was 7th in the majors in center fielders with 400+ ABs (full time starters all year).