Yep, that's what I'm implying. In terms of young & cheap players with good upsides, Williams and Hill would probably rank 2 and 3 respectively on any team's wish list in a trade with the Cubs (with Pie at #1, although you could make cases for Murton and Cedeno in that mix). I rank Williams and Hill higher because both have good upsides as pitchers, which a lot of teams covet. What everyone seems to have forgotten with Williams this season was that he did not play this past season at full capacity. Remember, he was fighting weight issues along with a lot of grief on his shoulders (father's illness, mother dying, etc). In the offseason, he is going to have a chance to go on the Carlos Zambrano Broccoli & Cottage Cheese Diet™, get back into shape, get his mind in order, and come back ready to go. Also, he is still fairly young (24 next season) with four above average pitches. Hill, on the other hand, was never given an opportunity to adjust to major league hitters and situations. There's a difference between pitching in Des Moines in front of 3,000 people and pitching in Wrigley in front of 32,000 people. We know a few things for certain with Hill: his curveballs are incredible and his fastball is at best decent and at worst below average. He's still developing that third pitch; whether or not it ever comes about is an important issue. However, with his curve ball, you figure he'll at worst become a quality LOOGY/setup man, which is an important cog to have on a team. The BBs and HRs are a problem, but he could cut down on those with time. Williams could be a key part of any deal, Hill could be a big part of any deal with a team in a pitcher's park. I would not be surprised one bit if Hendry traded one or both of them in a deal (or deals) for offensive help.