Outshined_One

I'm becoming less and less a fan of utilizing batting average when it comes to evaluating prospects. Sometimes it can be effective in predicting a hitter's effectiveness, but much of the time, as a guy moves from level to level, it's hard to count on almost any prospect for consistency in that regard. BABIP, Line Drive %, and all sorts of other things just factor so heavily into it that I find myself skeptical of many guys. Much like I have trouble understanding why people get so upset over a guy hitting .220, I have some trouble with people getting excited over a prospect hitting .300. Those aforementioned factors can work just as positively as they can negatively.

Don't forget the immortal David Kelton.

Why? I really like this team and think it would be awesome to have them in the World Series, considering their recent horrible stretch and the fact that their fans seem to be pretty on the level compared to other AL franchises.

Box Scores Iowa won 4-2 Box Score CF F. Pie 0/4 LF L. Montanez 1/3, BB, 2B (11) 2B B. Coats 0/4, K RF M. Restovich 0/4, 3 K 1B M. Hoffpauir 2/2, 2 BB, 2 R, E (6, fielding) 3B C. Mcgehee 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (21) C G. Soto 2/2, BB, R, 3 RBI, HR (4) SP JK Ryu 8 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 7/1 K/BB, HR, WP, 10-7 GO-FO West Tenn lost 1-0 Box Score CF C. Walker 1/4, 2 K, SB (37) 2B E. Patterson 1/4, K, CS (11), PO (2B) 3B S. Moore 1/3, K, HBP RF M. Negron 1/4, K 1B B. Sing 0/3, BB, 2 K LF R. Lewis 0/4, K SP F. Baez 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 5/1 K/BB, 3 HBP, 8-8 GO-FO Daytona lost 4-3 Box Score 2B N. Spears 1/5 SS J. Simokaitis 1/5, R, 2B (8), 2 K 1B M. Craig 1/4, RBI, 2 K RF R. Harvey 1/4, 2 K C J. Muyco 1/3, BB, 2 K SP M. Holliman 7 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 5/1 K/BB, HR, WP, 7-8 GO-FO, E (2, throw) Peoria lost 4-1 Box Score CF D. Gregg 0/4 3B R. Malone 0/3, BB, K LF J. Valdez 2/4, R, RBI, HR (5), K 1B R. Norwood 0/4, K 2B R. Chirinos 1/3, 2B (28) SS K. Reynolds 0/3 DH A. Garcia 0/3 RF Y. Carter 0/3 SP S. Taylor 5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1/2 K/BB, 7-7 GO-FO Boise lost 3-1 Box Score RF M. Camp 1/3, BB, SB (10) C M. Mercedes 1/4, R CF T. Colvin 1/4, 3 K, SB (8) 3B J. Lansford 0/4, RBI 1B R. Canzler 1/3, BB LF DJ Lewis 1/4, K 2B S. Clevenger 0/4, 2 K DH E. Puello 2/3, 2B (2) PH/SS A. Joseph 0/1 (ooooooooookay then...) SP K. Kopach 4.1 IP, 1 H, 3 ER, 1/3 K/BB, 2 HBP, 8-4 GO-FO Mesa lost 2-1 Box Score 2B L. Rosario 1/4, K, SB (7), PO (2B) SS N. Samson 1/4 CF D. Rundle 1/4, K LF C. Andersen 2/4, 2B (3), 2 K, E (4, fielding) C C. Perez 0/3, RBI 3B C. Valentin 1/3, E (7, throw) SP J. Renshaw 3 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 4/1 K/BB, 2 balk, 5-0 GO-FO RP R. Dolis 2 hitless/scoreless, 2/1 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP T. Parker 2 hitless/scoreless, 4/1 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO, Pickoff (1B) OVERALL: 1-5

Bill Simmons fan?

Teixeira was drafted as a 3B. He moved because the Rangers had Blalock at 3B.

Two words: Sample size. I'm skeptical until he proves he can keep putting up these kinds of numbers by the end of the season.

While I dig his patience on the season, his power has been absolutely abysmal. He still could make the majors, but a .311 SLG isn't going to bowl anyone over, especially at 2B. Fixed. :D

Most importantly the best pitching prospect in the draft rarely goes in the top 5 it seems. Andrew Miller Jered Weaver etc

Quick! Call Mark Grace!

Darrin Downs gets the start tonight for Mesa.

One thing I will point out...5 picks is rather arbitrary. Why not 4? 6? Is there something about the number 5 that gives it ultimate value? Anyways...Hitters taken in the Top 5: 1999 1. Braves Chipper Jones SS Pierson, FL 2. Tigers Tony Clark OF El Cajon, CA 3. Phillies Mike Lieberthal C Westlake, CA 1991 2. Braves Mike Kelly OF Arizona State U 3. Twins David McCarty OF Stanford U 4. Cardinals Dmitri Young SS Camarillo, CA 1992 1. Astros Phil Nevin 3B Cal State Fullerton 4. Orioles Jeffrey Hammonds OF Stanford U 5. Reds Chad Mottola OF Central Florida U 1993 1. Mariners Alex Rodriguez SS Miami, FL 1994 2. Athletics Ben Grieve OF Arlington, TX 4. Brewers Tony Williamson 3B Arizona State U 5. Marlins Josh Booty SS Shreveport, LA 1995 1. Angels Darin Erstad OF U of Nebraska 2. Padres Mark Davis C Malvern, PA 3. Mariners Jose Cruz, Jr. OF Rice U 1996 2. Twins Travis Lee 1B San Diego State U 1997 2. Phillies *J.D. Drew OF Florida State U 3. Angels Troy Glaus 3B UCLA 5. Blue Jays Vernon Wells OF Arlington, TX 1998 1. Phillies Pat Burrell 1B U. of Miami (FL) 3. Cubs Corey Patterson OF Kennesaw, GA 5. Cardinals J.D. Drew OF No School 1999 1. Devil Rays Josh Hamilton OF Raleigh, NC 3. Tigers Eric Munson C U. of Southern California 4. Diamondbacks Corey Myers SS Scottsdale, AZ 5. Twins B.J. Garbe OF Moses Lake, WA 2000 1. Marlins Adrian Gonzalez 1B Chula Vista, CA 3. Cubs Luis Montanez SS Miami, FL 2001 1. Twins Joe Mauer C Cretin-Derham Hall HS, St. Paul 5. Rangers Mark Teixeira 3B Georgia Tech 2002 2. Devil Rays B.J. Upton SS Greenbriar Christian, Chesapeake, VA 2003 1. Devil Rays Delmon Young RF Adolfo Camarillo HS 2. Brewers Rickie Weeks 2B Southern U A&M 5. Royals Christopher Lubanski CF Kennedy-Kenrick Catholic 2004 1. Padres Matthew Bush SS Mission Bay HS 2005 1. Diamondbacks Justin Upton SS Great Bridge HS Chesapeake, VA 2. Royals Alex Gordon 3B Univ. of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 3. Mariners Jeffrey Clement C Univ. of Southern Cal. Marshalltown, IA 4. Nationals Ryan Zimmerman 3B Univ. of Virginia Virginia Beach, VA 5. Brewers Ryan Braun 3B Univ. of Miami Granada Hills, CA

Honestly, I think the sample size for pitchers taken in the top 5 since 1990 is too small of a sample size to really make that kind of judgment. Stop and think about how many pitchers are taken in the first round each year of the draft. How many of them even make it to the majors? How many make it to the majors and are productive? How many go on to become stars? How many of those guys were signability picks in the Top 5? The MLB draft has a huge, huge number of players with so many factors coming into play that it's next to impossible to make that kind of solid judgment on taking a pitcher in the Top 5.

Billy Muldowney has finally returned from his hiatus, as he's currently pitching for Boise. They're not doing so hot, though.

I go by typical title rules for starting threads. The thread title almost always has all words starting with capitals save for stuff like "the", "and", "to" and so on. Just a habit of mine.

That's great news. Rundle seems to be figuring things out a bit, too. Rundle's IsoD: .175 Andersen's IsoD: .091 I wouldn't worry so much about either of the HS OF draftees, especially considering they're in Mesa. Both seem to have a good grasp of the strike zone (despite their seemingly alarming K numbers). Both have surprising patience at the plate and I wouldn't be surprised to see either or both start improving on their contact rates.

So a sacrifice bunt will not count against a streak, but a sacrifice fly will. When it comes to nuanced, confusing, detailed, and typically arbitrary rules, baseball beats all other sports by miles.

Box Scores Iowa won 10-5 Box Score CF F. Pie 2/4, BB, 3 R, 2B (23), SB (12), K RF B. Coats 2/4, BB, R, 3 RBI, 2 K 2B M. Fontenot 0/4, 2 K LF M. Restovich 2/3, BB, R, RBI, 2 2B (23) 1B M. Hoffpauir 0/3, BB, R, RBI, K 3B C. McGehee 2/4, 2 R, 3 RBI, 2B (20), K C J. Reyes 2/4, R, 2 RBI SP R. O'Malley 5 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2/3 K/BB, 4-10 GO-FO RP A. Shipman 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 2-2 GO-FO RP C. Rapada .1 IP, 1 ER, 0/2 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO West Tenn lost 6-3 Box Score CF C. Walker 2/4, CS (16) 2B E. Patterson 1/5, R, RBI, 3B (9) C J. Fox 2/5, R, 2 RBI, 2B (9), HR (5) 3B S. Moore 1/4, BB, 2B (24), K 1B B. Dopirak 1/3, BB LF/RF M. Negron 2/5 RF/1B B. Sing 0/4, BB PH/LF R. Lewis 2/2, R SP I. Pavlik 6 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 4/1 K/BB, 8-6 GO-FO, 2 E (throw x2) RP T. Atlee 2 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 0/1 K/BB, 3-3 GO-FO Daytona won 3-1 Box Score DH N. Spears 1/4, 2B (10) 2B J. Simokaitis 0/4, K 1B M. Craig 0/4, R, 2 K RF R. Harvey 2/3, R, SB (4) SS J. Mota 0/3, 2 K, E (13, throw) SP R. Bicondoa 7.1 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 12/0 K/BB, 9-1 GO-FO Peoria lost 7-4 Box Score CF D. Gregg 2/4, R, 3B (2), 2 K 2B R. Malone 0/3, BB, R, RBI LF J. Valdez 1/3, BB, R, 2B (22) 1B R. Norwood 0/3, BB, 3 K, E (8, fielding) SS R. Chirinos 0/3, BB, RBI, K, E (11, fielding) DH M. Reed 0/3, RBI, 2 K, HBP RF Y. Carter 1/4, 2 K PH A. Garcia 0/1, 1 K SP M. Atkins 3 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1/5 K/BB, HR, 2-4 GO-FO Boise lost 10-1 Box Score CF M. Camp 1/3, 2B (6) LF DJ Lewis 0/1 LF/CF T. Colvin 0/4, R DH J. Lansford 1/4, RBI, K 1B R. Canzler 0/4, K RF A. Joseph 0/2, BB 2B S. Clevenger 0/3, K 3B E. Puello 0/3 SP M. Pawelek 3 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 4/3 K/BB, WP, HBP, 2-3 GO-FO RP B. Muldowney 2 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 4/1 K/BB, WP, 1-1 GO-FO Mesa lost 9-3 Box Score 2B V. Heredia 0/4, 2 K SS N. Samson 1/2, 2 BB, R CF D. Rundle 2/4, R DH C. Gilbert 1/4, R, 2 RBI, 2B (5), 2 K RF C. Andersen 2/4, RBI, K 3B F. Tirado 0/3 1B L. Murphy 1/4, K LF W. Inoa 0/4, 2 K, SB (4) SP D. Downs 1.1 IP, 4 H, 4 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 3-0 GO-FO RP D. Walters 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3/1 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP O. Bernard 1 perfect, 2-1 GO-FO OVERALL: 2-4

Yet he still managed to reach, steal a base, and score a run. :P

I think it's helped him out significantly, though. He's showing power, patience, some defensive prowess, and, most importantly (imo), the ability to play CF. Everyone was ripping on the pick figuring he'd be a LF. However, as a CF, his value as a prospect goes up by an immense degree.

Am I seeing things on milb.com or is Dylan Johnston pitching for Peoria?

Link Should be fun to monitor how well he does in September.

A few things happened to him. In his last season with the Cubs in Daytona, his stuff and performance were decidedly not up to par for a guy with his level of talent. Secondly, there was a much-rumored confrontation he had with Jae-Kuk Ryu over who had a larger signing bonus (side note: it was Ryu), which resulted in Sisco taking a swing at Ryu with his right hand, missing, and hitting a wall, breaking his hand. Finally, he was massively out of shape when he wasn't rostered. Reports had him weighing in at over 300 pounds. According to interviews done with Hendry and Fleita, they wanted to send a message to Sisco by not placing him on the 40 man. The thought was that it would get him in line. Unfortunately, the Royals jumped on him in the Rule 5 Draft.

Looks like Nate was on the money with this one!

Box Scores Iowa won 6-0 Box Score CF F. Pie 2/4, R, 2B (22), K LF L. Montanez 0/4, K 2B M. Fontenot 0/4, K RF M. Restovich 3/3, BB, 2 R, 4 RBI, 2 HR (21), Assist (2B) 1B M. Hoffpauir 1/4, R RBI, HR (11), K 3B C. McGehee 0/3, K C G. Soto 1/3, 2B (17), K SP A. Guzman 7 scoreless, 3 H, 6/1 K/BB, 4-11 GO-FO West Tenn lost 8-7 in the 11th Box Score CF C. Walker 1/6 LF R. Lewis 0/5, R, K, HBP 1B B. Dopirak 2/3, 2 BB, 2 R, 2B (12), K 3B S. Moore 2/5, BB, R, 2 K C J. Fox 4/6, R, 3 RBI, 3 2B (8), 2 K, PB (9) RF/1B B. Sing 2/4, 2 BB, R, 3 RBI, HR (4), 2 K PH M. Negron 0/1 PH/2B E. Patterson 0/0, BB SP C. Shaver 5.1 IP, 11 H, 6 ER, 2/1 K/BB, HR, 7-7 GO-FO RP E. Campusano 1 scoreless, 2 H, 0/1 K/BB, 1-2 GO-FO RP L. Holdzkom 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO Daytona won 11-2 Box Score 2B N. Spears 2/5, 2 R, K, E (9, throw) SS J. Simokaitis 1/3, BB, R, RBI PH/SS J. Mota 0/1 1B M. Craig 1/1, 4 BB, 3 R, 2 RBI, HR (12) RF R. Harvey 2/3, 2 BB, R SP D. Veal 6.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 7/1 K/BB, 7-5 GO-FO Peoria lost 4-2 Box Score 2B R. Malone 1/5, R, 2 K, SB (5) RF J. Valdez 0/4, BB 1B R. Norwood 0/3, BB, SB (4) LF A. Garica 0/3, BB, K SS K. Reynolds 1/3, R, K, SB (8) SS R. Chirinos 0/1, K CF Y. Carter 1/4, RBI C M. Reed 1/2, 2 BB SP W. Miller 4 scoreless, 1 H, 4/3 K/BB, 3-5 GO-FO RP J. Santo 4 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, 5/4 K/BB, HR, 2 WP, HBP, 4-3 GO-FO Boise won 7-2 Box Score CF M. Camp 1/5, 2 K, CS (8), PO (1B) SS P. Lopez 1/5, R, SB (1), E (2, throw) LF T. Colvin 0/5, R, 5 K, SB (7), E (2, fielding) (Reached on strike 3 WP) 3B J. Lansford 1/4, BB, R, RBI, HR (4) 1B R. Canzler 3/4, 2 R, 3 RBI, HR (8) RF A. Joseph 2/4, R, RBI, 2 2B (12), K, E (2, fielding) 2B S. Clevenger 1/3, BB, R, RBI DH DJ Lewis 1/3, BB, K SP M. Billek 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 3/3 K/BB, 1-10 GO-FO RP A. Francisco 3 scoreless, 1 H, 3/0 K/BB, 3-3 GO-FO Mesa won 12-2 Box Score 2B L. Rosario 1/5, 2 BB, 2 R, K, 2 SB (6) SS N. Samson 1/4, B, 2 RBI, 2 K CF D. Rundle 2/5, BB, 3 RBI, 2B (3), K LF C. Andersen 1/4, 2 BB, 3 R, 2B (2), 2 K 3B F. Tirado 1/3, 3 BB DH W. Inoa 1/3, BB, 3 R, SB (3), 2 HBP SP C. Huseby 2 scoreless, 1 H, 4/0 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO RP M. Carrillo 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, HR, 4-3 GO-FO RP J. Ceda 1 perfect, 1/0 K/BB, 0-2 GO-FO OVERALL: 4-2