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Postponed games, double headers, and off days have mucked that up sufficiently.

You also have to factor in medical technology, which has expanded by leaps and bounds in the past few decades. All of the guys who have undergone Tommy John Surgery would have had their careers ended if this were back in the old days. Now, while these advances are a boon for baseball, you also get a lot more guys in the mix who are more injury-prone, as it were. Guys whose bodies can't handle the strain as well as others now can extend their career by a number of years. Yet, they also will become injured again and again during that time because their body simply can't handle the stress on its own. Secondly, the average number of runs scored in a game has risen significantly since the last dead ball era. Whether it's because of steroids, the fact that the ball might be juiced, better hitters, or whatever, pitchers now have to throw a lot more pitches per inning than they did all those years ago. I wouldn't necessarily look at P/PA, but instead something more along the lines of P/IP. That should give a better idea of matters. Finally, two critical things have happened that should not be overlooked. The first one is the fact that the strike zone has contracted. It can be traced to both the way umps call the game and QuesTec, which has been MLB's way of evaluating those strike zone (uselessly, I'll add). Secondly, the mound has been lowered. This had a large effect on pitchers' mechanics, the downward plane of the pitch, and other important things. Also, cubbie, if K'ing were a sin in the old days, then this list shouldn't have as many HOFers from the 50s, 60s, and 70s than it does.

Box Scores Iowa lost 8-1 Box Score CF F. Pie 1/4, 3B (6), K LF F. Bynum 2/4, RBI (He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack) RF M. Restovich 1/4, 3B (3), K 3B C. McGehee 0/2, 2 BB 2B B. Coats 0/4, 2 K, E (8, throw) C G. Soto 0/3, BB, 2 K SP L. Walrond 5.2 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 5/5 K/BB, 2 HR, 3 WP, 7-4 GO-FO RP A. Shipman 1.1 scoreless, 1 H, 2/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO West Tenn won 2-1 Box Score CF C. Walker 1/4, R, 2 SB (39) 2B E. Patterson 1/2, 2 BB, R, K 1B R. Lewis 0/4 3B S. Moore 1/4, 2 RBI C J. Fox 3/4, 2B (10), K RF M. Negron 0/4, K SP S. Gallagher 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 10/3 K/BB, HR, 2-6 GO-FO RP T. Atlee 1.2 scoreless, 1 H, 2/0 K/BB, 1-2 GO-FO Daytona lost Game 1 of their DH 11-4 Box Score 2B N. Spears 2/4, R, 2B (12) DH J. Simokaitis 0/4, RBI, K 1B M. Craig 2/4, RBI, 2B (31), SB (5), E (7, missed catch) RF R. Harvey 1/3, R, 2 RBI, HR (18), K SS J. Mota 1/3, R SP C. Perez 2.1 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 1/3 K/BB, 3-2 GO-FO RP G. Johnson 2.2 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 1 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 3-4 GO-FO RP M. Phelps 1 perfect, 3-0 GO-FO Daytona lost Game 2 of their DH 1-0 (Rain-shortened) Box Score 2B N. Spears 0/3, K SS J. Simokaitis 0/0, HBP SS J. Mota 0/2 1B M. Craig 0/2 RF R. Harvey 0/2 C J. Muyco 0/2, K SP R. Bicondoa 5 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 6/3 K/BB, Balk, 5-4 GO-FO Peoria lost 5-2 Box Score CF D. Gregg 1/5, 2B (9), K SS F. Tirado 1/4, BB, R, K LF J. Valdez 1/3, BB, R, K, SB (9), HBP 1B R. Norwood 3/4, RBI, K, HBP DH R. Malone 0/4, BB, K RF Y. Carter 0/3, BB, RBI, 3 K 3B K. Reynolds 0/4, K, E (11, fielding) 2B A. Garcia 2/4, 2 K C M. Reed 0/4, 2 K SP T. Blackford 4 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 3/0 K/BB, HR, WP, 5-4 GO-FO RP J. Yepez 1.1 scoreless, 1 H, 2/1 K/BB, 1-1 GO-FO Boise lost 7-0 Box Score RF M. Camp 1/4 CF T. Colvin 1/4, 3B (4), K 3B J. Lansford 0/4 1B R. Canzler 0/3, BB, K LF DJ Lewis 0/2, 2 BB 2B S. Clevenger 1/4, K DH E. Puello 1/3 SP M. Billek .1 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HR Mesa lost Game 1 of their DH 7-0 Box Score 2B V. Heredia 0/3, 2 K, E (12, fielding) SS N. Samson 0/1, BB, K, HBP CF D. Rundle 1/3, 2B (6), E (1, fielding) LF C. Gilbert 0/2, HBP 1B L. Murphy 0/2, 2 E, (7, fielding x2) DH W. Inoa 1/2 SP C. Huseby 3.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 1/0 K/BB, WP, 7-1 GO-FO Mesa won Game 2 of their DH 7-4 Box Score 3B L. Rosario 0/4, K SS N. Samson 0/2, 2 BB, R, E (3, throw) DH D. Rundle 0/3, BB, R, K RF C. Andersen 2/2, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (4), SB (5), PO (2B) 1B L. Murphy 0/2, K LF W. Inoa 1/3, 2 RBI 2B C. Valentin 0/2, BB, K, SB (3) SP M. Carrillo 5 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 7/0 K/BB, 4-3 GO-FO RP D. Walters 1 hitless/scoreless, 1/1 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO OVERALL: 2-7

Not any more. :P

FYI, Q is the source I mentioned earlier.

My thing with the lineups regarding Yost was based on what I saw of him during my past four years at UW-Madison. Perhaps he has improved on that particular aspect of the game recently, but I remember him putting out some really strange lineups during that time. Sometimes, it had to do with the quality of players he had to work with, but a number of other times, it just didn't make sense. That said, I'd happily trade the Brewers' position players for the guys the Cubs have.

Considering he throws with his lefthand, he should receive plenty of employment during his time in the majors. He doesn't throw particularly hard, but teams are always looking for LOOGYs and left handed starters.

Paging Marty McFly and Dr. Brown. :D Hit the Quantum Leap music! Also, as well as the Braves have been doing, I'm convinced that Ned Yost is only a hair better than Dust-for-brains. His lineups, pitcher handling, and calling of the game (hit & runs, SBs, etc) leave much to be desired. However, he should get kudos for hiring Mike Maddux as his pitching coach.

Box Scores Iowa lost 5-1 Box Score CF F. Pie 0/4, BB, 2 K 3B C. McGehee 1/5 RF M. Restovich 2/4, BB, K C G. Soto 2/5 2B B. Coats 0/3, BB, K LF L. Montanez 1/4 PH M. Fontenot 0/1 SP JK Ryu 5 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 3/3 K/BB, HR, WP, 7-5 GO-FO West Tenn with a much-deserved day off! Daytona PPD: Rain Peoria lost 6-5 Box Score CF D. Gregg 1/5, R, K, SB (26), Assist (Home) SS R. Lilly 1/4, BB, 2 R, 2 K, E (3, fielding) LF J. Valdez 4/4, RBI, 2 CS (6) 1B R. Norwood 1/3, 2 RBI, 2B (22) 2B R. Chirinos 0/4, K 3B R. Malone 1/3, BB, R, E (9, fielding) RF Y. Carter 1/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (12), K C M. Reed 0/4 SP S. Taylor 5.1 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 7/2 K/BB, 6-2 GO-FO (Note: Francisco Tirado pinch ran and DH'd in this game) Boise won 7-6 Box Score RF/CF M. Camp 1/3, BB, R, RBI, SB (14) CF/LF T. Colvin 0/4, RBI, 2 K, CS (2), PO (1B) 3B J. Lansford 0/4, K 1B R. Canzler 2/3, BB, 2 R LF DJ Lewis 1/3, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (13), Assist (2B) 2B S. Clevenger 1/3, BB, R, RBI, K, SB (4) DH E. Puello 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (6) C M. Mercedes 1/4, RBI, 2B (7), K SP J. Pina 2.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, HBP, 0-5 GO-FO RP A. Maestri 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 4-0 GO-FO OVERALL: 1-2 Mesa has the day off.

I predict Barrett punches Oswalt out during Roy's first AB.

Juan Mateo and Rich Hill managed to survive having unusually high GO-FO ratios. As long as Ceda doesn't give up much in the way of linedrives and can strike guys out at a really good rate, he'll be fine. Congrats to the new promotees! :D

WR Matt Jones, JAX

Box Scores Iowa lost 11-2 Box Score CF F. Pie 1/4, R, RBI, HR (11) RF M. Restovich 0/4 3B/2B C. McGehee 2/3, RBI, 2B (24), E (11, fielding) 2B B. Coats 0/3, K LF L. Montanez 0/3, K C/1B J. Reyes 0/3 SP J. Williams 3 IP, 10 H, 6 ER, 3/3 K/BB, HR, WP, 3-3 GO-FO West Tenn lost Game 1 of their DH (continuation of yesterday's suspended game) in a 20 inning extravaganza 5-2 Box Score CF C. Walker 0/8 2B E. Patterson 1/9, 2 K 3B S. Moore 0/6, 3 BB, 4 K C J. Fox 1/8, R, 2 K, E (2, catcher's interference), PB (10), HBP 1B B. Sing 1/6, 2 BB, 2 K RF M. Negron 1/6, 2 BB, 2 K, CS (3), 2 assists (2B, AJ Ellis twice, haha) PH R. Lewis 0/1 SP F. Baez 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, HR, 0-7 GO-FO RP L. Holdzkom 3 scoreless, 2 H, 3/0 K/BB, 3-2 GO-FO RP T. Atlee 1 hitless/scoreless, 0/2 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP A. Mendez 3 scoreless, 2 H, 3/1 K/BB, 1-5 GO-FO RP E. Campusano 1.2 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 1-2 GO-FO West Tenn won Game 2 of their DH 4-1 Box Score CF C. Walker 1/4, RBI, 2 K, CS (17) 2B E. Patterson 0/2, RBI, K 1B R. Lewis 0/3 3B S. Moore 1/3, R, 2B (25), K RF M. Negron 1/3, K SP JR Mathes 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 11/0 K/BB, HR, WP, 7-3 GO-FO Daytona with a day off. Peoria lost 8-6 Box Score CF D. Gregg 0/4, BB, R, K SS R. Lilly 2/4, 3 R, 3 RBI, 2 HR (2), K, HBP LF J. Valdez 1/5, K DH R. Malone 1/2, 3 BB, 2B (14) 2B R. Chirinos 1/5 3B K. Reynolds 1/4, RBI RF Y. Carter 1/5, R, RBI, HR (11), K, E (5, fielding) 1B A. Garcia 3/4, R, 2B (18) SP F. Jimenez Angulo 2 IP, 6 H, 7 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, HBP, 3-2 GO-FO Boise lost 6-4 Box Score CF M. Camp 0/4 LF T. Colvin 0/4 3B J. Lansford 1/3, HBP 1B R. Canzler 1/4, R, RBI, HR (12), K RF A. Joseph 1/4, R, CS (1), PO (1B) 2B S. Clevenger 0/4 DH E. Puello 3/4, 2 R, RBI, 2 2B (6) PH DJ Lewis 0/1 SP J. Renshaw 4 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 3-8 GO-FO RP J. Papelbon 3 scoreless, 2 H, 3/1 K/BB, 4-2 GO-FO Mesa won 13-4 Box Score 2B V. Heredia 1/3, BB, 2 R, K, SB (22) PH/2B C. Valentin 1/1, RBI SS N. Samson 2/4, BB, 2 R, RBI CF D. Rundle 1/3, BB, 2 R, RBI, 3B (3), K PH/3B L. Rosario 0/1 DH C. Gilbert 0/3, BB, R 1B L. Murphy 1/2, BB, 2 R, 2B (4), K, HBP LF W. Inoa 2/4, R, RBI, K SP J. Ceda 2 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 6/2 K/BB, WP, 1-0 GO-FO, E (2, throw) RP R. Hernandez 4 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 5-5 GO-FO, E (3, pickoff) OVERALL: 2-4

Sweet, thanks for the heads up. I'll be picking in a moment. I'm just annoyed that one of my RBs has a shoulder injury and another spit on a teammate. :evil:

Scheduled Games (All Times Local) Iowa lost Game 1 of the DH 4-2 Box Score CF F. Pie 0/4, K 2B B. Coats 1/3, E (7, throw) RF M. Restovich 1/3, R 1B M. Hoffpauir 1/2, BB, R, 2B (9) 3B C. McGehee 1/3, 2 RBI, 2B (23) C G. Soto 0/2, BB, K PH L. Montanez 0/1 SP S. Marshall 3 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2/5 K/BB, Iowa won Game 2 of the DH 11-7 with 4 in the 9th Box Score CF F. Pie 3/5, BB, 3 R, 2B (26), SB (14), Assist (2B) RF M. Restovich 2/4, R, RBI, K, HBP 1B M. Hoffpauir 1/3, BB, 2 R, 4 RBI, HR (12), K 2B C. McGehee 1/4, BB, R, RBI, E (10, throw) LF L. Montanez 1/5, R, 4 RBI, HR (5) C J. Reyes 1/5, 2 K PH G. Soto 0/0, BB SP R. Wells 5 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 7/0 K/BB, 6-1 GO-FO West Tenn Suspended: Rain Box Score Daytona lost 3-0 Box Score DH N. Spears 1/3 SS J. Mota 0/4, CS (1) 2B J. Simokaitis 1/4, K 1B M. Craig 0/3, BB RF R. Harvey 1/3, K SP M. Holliman 6.1 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 5/1 K/BB, HR, WP, 6-8 GO-FO RP G. Johnson 2 IP, 1 H, 1/2 K/BB, WP, 4-1 GO-FO Peoria won 4-3 Box Score CF D. Gregg 0/2, 2 BB, R, K, CS (17) DH R. Malone 2/4, 2 R, RBI, 2B (13) LF J. Valdez 2/4, 2 RBI, 2B (24), K 1B R. Norwood 0/3, BB, K SS R. Chirinos 1/4, RBI, 2B (29), K 3B K. Reynolds 0/4, K, E (10, fielding) RF Y. Carter 0/3, K, Assist (3B) C M. Reed 1/3, 2 K SP M. Atkins 6 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 4/2 K/BB, 5-8 GO-FO Boise won 4-2 Box Score RF/CF M. Camp 3/4, 2 R, CS (9) C M. Mercedes 0/3, BB, CS (1) CF/LF T. Colvin 2/4, R, 3 RBI, 3B (3), HR (5), K, Assist (2B) 1B R. Canzler 0/3, BB, K LF DJ Lewis 1/3, R, 2B (12), 2 K 3B E. Puello 2/3, BB, 2B (4) 2B S. Clevenger 1/3, BB, RBI SP B. Muldowney 3 scoreless, 2 H, 2/0 K/BB, 3-3 GO-FO RP K. Kopach 2.2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0/4 K/BB, 2 WP, 6-1 GO-FO Mesa won 12-5 Box Score 2B V. Heredia 2/5, R, 2 RBI, 2 2B (4), K, CS (8), E (11, fielding) PH/2B C. Valentin 1/1, RBI SS N. Samson 2/6, 2 K, 2 E (throw, missed catch) CF D. Rundle 1/4, BB, 3 R, RBI, K LF C. Andersen 1/3, R, PO (1B), HBP PH/LF C. Gilbert 0/1 C C. Perez 0/2 3B F. Tirado 3/5, 2 R, 2 RBI, SB (1) DH W. Inoa 3/5, R, K, SB (5) SP R. Dolis 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0/0 K/BB, WP, 5-4 GO-FO RP D. Walters .1 perfect, 0-1 GO-FO OVERALL: 4-2

Your guess would be correct. Something between .280-.310 is typically sustainable.

Rich Hill in Colorado? Hoo boy.

If we're talking overall ceiling, I have a hard time seeing Mark Pawelek not ranked #1 or #2. A lefty with that kind of stuff, poise, character, and so on can turn out to be incredible. Whether or not he reaches that ceiling is another matter altogether.

Box Scores Iowa won 5-4 Box Score CF F. Pie 1/4, BB, R, K LF L. Montanez 0/4, BB, K RF M. Restovich 1/4, BB, K 1B M. Hoffpauir 2/5, R, 2 RBI, K 3B C. McGehee 1/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (9), K C G. Soto 2/3, BB, R, RBI, 2B (18), HR (5) 2B B. Coats 0/3, BB SP R. O'Malley 7 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 5/2 K/BB, HR, 9-7 GO-FO West Tenn won 4-2 Box Score CF C. Walker 1/5, 2 K 2B E. Patterson 0/3, BB, RBI, 3 K RF/LF R. Lewis 1/4, BB, 2B (14), K LF J. Fox 0/3, BB 3B S. Moore 1/4, BB, R, RBI, HR (18), K 1B B. Sing 1/3, 2 BB, 2 R, RBI, HR (6), K RF M. Negron 0/1, K SP W. Miller 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 4/1 K/BB, 5-9 GO-FO RP E. Campusano .1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB Daytona won 4-1 Box Score 2B N. Spears 1/4, R, 2B (11), K SS J. Mota 2/3 DH J. Simokaitis 1/3, R, RBI 1B M. Craig 0/3, BB, K RF R. Harvey 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (22), K C J. Muyco 0/3, 2 K SP J. Berg 4 scoreless, 3 H, 1/1 K/BB, WP, 8-1 GO-FO Peoria lost 3-1 Box Score CF D. Gregg 1/4, SB (25) 2B R. Malone 2/2, 2 BB, E (8, throw) LF J. Valdez 1/4, 2B (23) 1B R. Norwood 0/4 SS R. Chirinos 0/4, K, E (13, fielding) 3B K. Reynolds 1/4, R, RBI, HR, (7) RF Y. Carter 0/4, K DH A. Garcia 0/4, 3 K SP J. Santo 5 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 4/4 K/BB, 2 WP, 5-5 GO-FO Boise won 8-2 Box Score CF M. Camp 1/4, BB, 2 RBI, K LF T. Colvin 1/5, R, RBI, K, SB (10) 3B J. Lansford 0/4, BB, 4 K 1B R. Canzler 1/3, BB, R, RBI, SB (5) RF A. Joseph 0/3, K, HBP 2B S. Clevenger 2/4, 2 R, RBI, SB (3) DH DJ Lewis 1/2, 2 BB, R, RBI, 2B (11), K SP M. Pawelek 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER (inherited), 5/0 K/BB, 9-5 GO-FO Mesa lost 7-4 Box Score 2B L. Rosario 2/5, R, 2 RBI, 2 K, E (2, fielding) SS N. Samson 2/3, RBI, 2 CS (3), HBP RF C. Andersen 0/2, 2 BB, R, K, E (5, throw) LF C. Gilbert 1/4, R, RBI, 2 K 3B F. Tirado 0/4, 2 K 1B L. Murphy 1/3, K, HBP DH C. Valentin 0/4, 4 K SP T. Parker 3 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1/0 K/BB, 5-2 GO-FO OVERALL: 4-2

Dusty's either a bold-faced liar or really ignorant. You decide!

Box Scores Iowa with a day off. West Tenn lost 4-3 Box Score CF C. Walker 1/4, R, RBI, 2 K 2B E. Patterson 3/4, RBI, K, CS (12) 1B R. Lewis 1/4, R 3B S. Moore 3/3, BB RF M. Negron 0/4, E (3, fielding) PH B. Sing 0/0, BB PH J. Fox 0/1 SP C. Shaver 6.1 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 7-9 GO-FO RP E. Campusano 1 hitless/scoreless, 1/1 K/BB, 1-1 GO-FO Daytona won 8-3 Box Score 2B N. Spears 2/5, R, RBI SS J. Simokaitis 3/4, BB, R, 3 RBI, HR (1) 1B M. Craig 1/4, BB RF R. Harvey 1/4, RBI SP D. Veal 5.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3/3 K/BB, 6-6 GO-FO RP M. Phelps 1 scoreless, 1 H, 3-0 GO-FO Peoria won 12-9 with 6 in the bottom of the 8th Box Score CF D. Gregg 3/5, 2 R 2B R. Malone 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2B (12), HR (12), K LF J. Valdez 2/5, 2 RBI, Assist (Home) 1B R. Norwood 1/5, RBI, K SS R. Chirinos 1/3, BB, 2 R, SB (18), E (12, throw), HBP 3B K. Reynolds 1/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, HR (6), 2 K RF Y. Carter 2/5, R, 2 RBI, 2 K, CS (2) DH A. Garcia 2/4, BB, R, 2 RBI SP J. Yepez 3 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 2/3 K/BB, WP, 5-2 GO-FO RP M. Avery 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2-1 GO-FO Boise won 6-5 Box Score RF/CF M. Camp 0/3, BB, R, K CF/LF T. Colvin 0/4, K 3B J. Lansford 1/4, 2 RBI, K, E (6, fielding) 1B R. Canzler 1/4, R, RBI, HR (11), K LF DJ Lewis 1/4, R 2B S. Clevenger 2/4, R, RBI, HR (2), K DH E. Puello 1/4, K SP M. Billek 5 scoreless, 1 H, 3/1 K/BB, WP, 7-5 GO-FO Mesa won 6-5 Box Score 2B V. Heredia 1/4, BB, R, 2 K, SB (21) RF C. Andersen 1/4, BB, R, RBI, 3B (1), 2 K CF D. Rundle 2/5, R, RBI, 2B (5), K C C. Perez 0/3, R, HBP SS F. Tirado 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (2), E (6, fielding) 1B L. Murphy 0/1, 2 BB, HBP LF W. Inoa 0/4, 2 K SP C. Huseby 3 scoreless, 3 H, 4/1 K/BB, 1-4 GO-FO RP M. Carrillo 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2/2 K/BB, WP, 1-3 GO-FO RP O. Bernard 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1-2 GO-FO OVERALL: 4-1

Z never had it to begin with, imo. The strike zone was inconsistent and his stuff was decidedly below average.

There went the no-no on the south side.

Sad thing is, they've been having trouble cracking the 30,000 fan mark in Cincy during their series against the Cards.

That recent HBP was unintentional, imo. I didnt think that mattered anymore once warnings were issued.... It still matters. In Barrett's case, it seemed like he almost turned into it and the pitch looked more like a mistake than anything else. If it were a bit more borderline, then I think Bush would have been tossed.