Roast

Uhh.....source?

I was skeptical at first. I have grown up with uniforms with the name on the back. Now after seeing htem in action. I find those with the names on the bakc annoying and ugly.

Well, apparently Levine was on ESPN Radio and said the Cubs are talking about Soriano and Dunn. Dunn>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Soriano, IMO. That being said however Manny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunn>>>>>>>>>>>Soriano.

WOHOO, another dusty debate!!!!! We should make a dust sucks/rocks forum.

Woah, jsut got back from work. When and why is dunn now thorwn in the mix? Info plz.

Possible. I have a feeling Theo Epstein is sort of in the mode he was last year with Nomar...the fans are booing Manny, the Boston media is criticizing him, I think he'll try as hard as possible to deal him before the deadline. Hopefully JH makes an effort to get him. OMG. Its like you read my mind and typed it. :shock: really though, i think what he said.

For Manny, I'd go to Texas. Where do I sign.

1. This belongs in POLLS 2. Who cares.

I have to agree with that. Those home/road splits that have been beat to death scare me. But as long as we dont give up pie/hill then I can survive with it.

??? Roast talked to a girl? :pimp:

What was the sig.... i wanna know. God, I always miss all the good stuff. :cry:

I guarantee if it was the Mets or the Yankees, they would say the deal was about done. I would love it if Soriano ended up back in pinstripes. Wouldn't that just about put the Texas GM on suicide watch: Trade away potentially the best player ever (A-Rod) for Soriano, then trade Soriano back for far less. hahahaha. ooh, poor rangers.

:lmao: That is awesome.

lmao, hahahaha

LMAO. ANd in response to tree's jesus post. HAHAHAHAHHAHA And Sonic, in response to your new and awesome Avatar HAHAHAHAHA Ok, i think i'm done laughing at things now.

I think this will more than likely be the case if we do land Soriano. He's a 2B by trait, not an OF, and I would look for walker to be spun for a relief pitcher if the Soriano deal goes through. Perhaps Jim feels that if we can load our infield with big bats as mentioned before (A-Ram, Nomah, Soriano and D-Lee) then we could get by with a guy like Murton in LF who are great hitters but not a lot of pop. Now if only Murty could get some regular PT that'd be great... I think I could handle a situation like that. And I know this is a dead horse that has been beaten to a pulp, but, those home/away splits REALLY scare me. I mean, there is a 300 point differential in OPS.

Ty Cobb hates you now. Daisy pushers don't scare me. I bet the daisy's above ty cobbs grave could even kick some serious butt.

I agree you cant overlook these things. But, you also cant overlook the fact that the boston media is HORRIBLE for overblowing things. Cuse said it best yesterday "the boston media has a worse case of ADD then any kid i've ever seen". So, while he's probably not the best "team player" in the whole world, I find it hard to beleive he's as bad as the media makes him out to be. And even if he is a prick, i dont really care. Team chemistry is bunk, in my opinion. Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig didnt even talk to each other for FIVE years. They hated each other. And I still think they did OK. My point is, whatever short comings manny may have on the defensive, or off the field side of him. They are GREATLY overshaddowed by the production he brings.

Exxxxxxactly. I want manny.

Ty Cobb hates you now.

:mamoru: But, her point is not that he isnt good, but that he may be a distraction off the field. But, you gotta remember that they said some of these same thigns about nomar. I don't remember Nomar being a distraction off the field. They said he was quiet and kept to himself in the locker room, but not much worse than that. To compare Nomar and Manny off the field is like comparing Nomar and Neifi on the field. The boston media said he was a distraction, is what i'm getting at. They said he was whining about wanting a trade and such. What i'm getting at is the boston media is BRUTAL and they've said these same things about players in the past, players who we know arent like that at all. Am I saying manny doesnt do ANYTHING the media reports? no. I am saying i dont beleive his problems are as serious as the boston media makes it out to be.

I think that is a pretty weak argument. I, admittedly, do not see him play quite so often as you. But from what I have seen, he does a pretty good job of getting to balls in the outfield. And, like rocket said when discussing dunn and his defense. Who really cares. How many balls go to left field every game, really think about it. I'd say between 5 and 6 on a regular day. Its not a huge risk like it would be if he was playing somewhere that gets a bunch of oppratunities, like a SS. And moreover, if he can give me 92 RBI's by July 29 every year. Then hell, he can sit down in left field for all i care.

:mamoru: But, her point is not that he isnt good, but that he may be a distraction off the field. But, you gotta remember that they said some of these same thigns about nomar.

I really think you might be on to something here. Hendry does want a long term solution to the outfield situation, and has had a trading relationship with Boston. If we could get Soriano and spin him off to the Sox for Manny, as long as they ate some of his contract, that would be a huge offensive upgrade. Defensivley....well....... :oops: But if anyone could make this happen and come out smelling like a rose, its good ole Jim Hendry. Yesterday I brought up a three way where Boston gets Soriano, We get manny, and texas gets a bunch of pitching and such. Now granted, Boston would end up getting more than just soriano, but thats the basic framework for what I was thinking. I could see that as an actual possibility. That being said however, I have to agreew ith what JC said. The organization was hell bent on getting rid of "distractions". That makes me think that they'd be unwilling to take on manny. Now, As for what blue heart said, you have to realize ALOT of manny's problems are probably vastly overblown by the boston media. They are ruthless. Just look what they did to Nomar. They said HE was a clubhouse cancer and he complained untill he "go out" of boston. Cuse brought up yesterday that he even recalled them saying he didnt run out ground balls either. I recall this also, but I dont remember for sure. And his defense? Its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be (people being that dreaded boston media, again). Over the past 6 years (2000-2005YTD) he has had 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, and 0 errors respectivley. Now errors, obviously, are probably not the best way to evaluate a fielder, but bare with me. Lets compare those error totals to one Jeromy Burnitz who we all consider to be a pretty servicable outfielder. Not a godsend by any means, but, very servicable I think we would all agree. Over the last six years (200-2005YTD) he has 7, 6, 9, 7, 4, and 4 errors respectivley. Now, like I said, thats probably a very bad way to evaluate a fielder. But I think it does at least go a little way towards proving my point. He is not that bad in the outfield.

DOH. I was planning on spot starting this one. But I got into a conversation with a GIRL and forgot about it. See what females do to me :x Oh, and cubs suck.