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Oh noes. This is where al hell breaks loose.

Any new info over the past three or four hours? i've been gone a while.

I disagree with Leivne. He gets that a lot... Haha, no kidding. This, however, provokes the question. who are your top five players in baseball? For me its: -ARod -Vlad -Johan Santana -Miguel Cabrera -Albert Pujouls Not particularly in that order, but they most likely fill out the top five in my book.

I wouldn't tempt fate by saying such things. :wink: Oh no, thats scary.

I second this motion.

and now he's off the air. there wasnt much new there.

Here is The overview: -Levine says he never said it was a done deal, seems to beat around the bush a bit. -Levine kisses the whitesox ass for no reason. - Patterson would be involved in the deal to make it a little more even money-wise. -The cubs would most likely take on ALL of tejada's contract -Talks about how it would effect cubs in the division, says pitching a question mark (DUH) -Says he doesnt think prior wants to leave here. And now they have shifted the conversation to willie harris and the white sox, how typical.

It seems to me like Levine is kinda backing down off this a bit.... Though he still maintains there is a deal on the table.

Levine is on ESPN 1000 Right now..

they said Levine would be on "later this hour"

No. I hope not, but i think so...

Oh noes. PRIOR IS NOT FREAKIN INJURY PRONE. He got hit in the arm by a freak line drive. NOT INJURY PRONE. Therefore the chance that his arm falls of is highly highly highly HIGHLY unlikely. Then again, Dusty could always trot Prior out there and set all kinds of pitch count records. Great mechanics or not, there is the Baker Factor to take into account. He could do that to every pitcher. does that mean we should have 25 position players on our team to stop that from happening?

I dont know why, but that made me laugh. Sadly however, its exactly the case.

Oh noes. PRIOR IS NOT FREAKIN INJURY PRONE. He got hit in the arm by a freak line drive. NOT INJURY PRONE. Therefore the chance that his arm falls of is highly highly highly HIGHLY unlikely.

heh heh heh. Does anyone else find it ironic that Levine will be reporting at 4:20 ....Heh. ANyways... I figure I'll listen in to this.

The IF becomes a strenght, but then the pitching becomes a weakness. I'm not the one who said it would be the worst in my lifetime. But I'm much more likely to side with the person who makes that claim than the person who has no problem dealing Prior because he's only won 18 games once so far in his career. There's a really good chance that Prior will have the best career of anybody the Cubs developed in my lifetime outside of Maddux, and he wasn't traded. So it could end up being the worst trade. Let's say Tejada comes here, has a nice 2-3 years then settles into one of those guys living off his reputation (occasionally looking great but largely much less productive than his former self). During that time the Cubs pitching is highly questionable, Lee returns to normal and the team fails to make any postseason noice. Meanwhile, over the next 10 years Prior develops into a top 5 pitcher in the game, consistently posts a 3.50 ERA or lower, wins 12-20 games a year, and picks up a Cy Young. This set of circumstances is hardly far from possible, and would leave most Cubs fans absolutely disgusted by the results of the trade. The Cubs would have to win it all in 2006 or 2007 to make that trade seem justified, but their pitching would have taken such a big hit that their odds would be no better than if they just maintained status quo. What he said.

If the Cubs acquired Tejada they would have one of the best IF's in the league. How is that not a strength? Now don't get me wrong, I love Prior, I just don't see how this is the WORST Cubbie trade in your lifetime. When you are looking at Tejada's achievments, do you just throw them out the window? He still had a great year last year for a SS. Would having one of the best INF's in the league really be a strength if we had to decimate our rotation in order to get it? It's never a good idea to create one hole to fill another. You're right. Having Neifi start at SS is a much better option. CEDENO. Hendry already said (this was before the whole Tejada thng to started) that cedeno would be our SS going into 06. I think it was his way of saying "play him, dusty". And I still say that we shouldnt do this. Starting pitching is our strength right now. Offense is a big weakness. We do this deal, and our offense is now "good" (we still have a sad outfield) and our pitching is questionable.

That would be even worse. I'd take Tejada over Manny. I hope none of these deals happen. I dont want prior going anywhere. God, this feels like the sick feeling I got when sosa got traded last year. :cry:

I wonder if this means that JH is actually Shrek? They weigh the same....

Haha,I was in the middle of responding to whoever wrote that we could sign him to a ridiculous 3 year deal 13 years from now. How sick is it that I was thinking the exact same thing. But hey, look at it this way, we can see him win 300 in cubbie blue!

Wow, what brilliant insight into the mind of a total and cmplete stranger! How did I not see this before? Hey now. But anyways. I am really hoping this is kinda like "we're going to have to give up Clement to get Nomar" situation a couple years ago. We think we're going to have to give up a big pitcher but then turn around and get our player without doing so.... Of course, Clement ended up in boston later anyways...hmm.

No kidding. .338 obp.....that shocked me.

Bedard would be slotted with Williams, hardly anything to solidify your rotation. O's fans are delusional. 8 straight sub .500 seasons makes you silly. I agree. I dont know why they think they're getting shafted. Unless they think prior is "injury prone" :x

I saw that one, but simply couldn't believe it. The Cubs shouldn't be adding any prospects to the Prior and Patterson for Tejada and Bedard idea. Baltimore is getting the better value. They get the best player in the deal and significant salary relief in addition (at least 5 million for 2006 even after arbitration, and at least 10 million for the life of the deal assuming they hold Prior for 3 years). Hill should be off that offer and the Cubs should be getting back another Hill calibur or better position prospect in return. I vote we dont trade prior. Period. Doing so would turn a position of strength into one of weakness. right now we have: Prior Z Wood (maybe) Maddux Williams/rusch/guzman If we did that we'd have Z Wood (maybe) Maddux Williams Rusch/guzman. No thank you.

I'm in the same boat as you. But I just got done reading over the last 5-10 pages. Basically Levine reported this morning that The cubs have given the O's a definative offer, and it is up to the O's to accept or reject. That deal being Tejada and Bedard for Prior, hill, and patterson. Now, I am busy getting my riot gear together. Like I said earlier: Haha, i read that. I really hope this doesnt go through. Prior + Leo...woooooow. Can we say Cy Young?