UMFan83

Well the crazy "Bears clinch a playoff spot this week" scenario is no longer valid with the Redskins win

Lets hope so. 50 games is better than 0. Plus with the lack of depth on the Hawks, Q can ride his core hard without having to worry about them being completely gassed in the playoffs.

I was just about to come here and ask if anyone listened. I'm downloading it now and listening while I walk my dogs. I'm glad he will take a hometown discount.

Whatever, they can try to buy a title if they want...I don't think it will work though

Wow that's crazy. You are totally right though. If we win and those all lose, the only teams that can tie us are Dallas, Minnesota and TB, and Dallas and Minny immediately lose the H2H tiebreaker, and TB can't catch us in conference record. That's nuts. Go Bears, Giants, Bills, Bengals, Eagles (ugh), Giants again, and Ravens.

Why even bring up the fact he used to play for the A's? He hasn't pitched for them since the end of a totally different era of baseball. And his injury history has one serious blemish on it: a TJS from 2008-2009, which he recovered from perfectly fine. If the Braves want to get rid of Hudson it's because he's old and expensive, not because he's got any serious injuries, and particularly none that he developed playing in Oakland. As with most ex-Cardinal pitchers, you have to worry about Haren dying unexpectedly

I dunno I just throught you were as sick of every page turning into you angrily defending ND as I was.

These are my favorite posts on this board. Walk into the cfb thread and what are people discussing? CFB?!?!?!?! Who cares about cfb in the cdb thread? You guys were arguing over which defense is the best defense and which is 2nd best or whatever. That's what I was referring to, not college football on the whole. Get a grip. yes, the guy who comes storming in and throws a tantrum should be telling people to get a grip. makes perfect sense. No offense intended, but you always seem to be so angry with the ND haters in this thread, which is a majority of the board. Why don't you join a ND forum so you can be amongst likeminded folks who will actually discuss the upcoming game? I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the anti-ND posts lately have been made specifically to get a rise out of you.

I did not. Prior to the 3rd down play I said I'd be happy if they didn't turn it over. The FG was conservative but the way this team is playing they needed to take the points. It was the wrong call and it contributed to the loss. You have a horrible line and a RG who never played RG before. Wrong move. That was something else Doug and OB pointed out. That first of all, the play was designed to have a lead blocker come and lead the way, which takes time to set up, and if your line doesn't win the initial push it can get blown up rather easily. They also mentioned how the play was inexplicably designed to go between Carimi and Scott. Carimi had played 3 quarters at guard this year and Scott was playing his 2nd game this year and is below average in general. A little head scratching to say the least.

They pointed out on Mike and Mike today that 3 of our losses have come to Aaron Rodgers, Colin Kapernick and Russell Wilson, all who can scramble and make plays with their feet. I guess less so Rodgers, but the other 2 definitely gave us fits running the ball. Doug and OB were talking about how the Seattle O-lineman were inviting the Bears rushers to go inside on them, and the Bears obliged even though the QB was burning them with his feet, allowing Wilson to get outside so easily on several plays. It's annoying how certain mistakes this year have been allowed to happen repeatedly without adjustments.

lol@ you thinking all is well and fine. Yes because the only 2 ways you can feel about the team is 'ahhh everything sucks, we will never win again, we need 22 new starters on this team' or 'everything is fine, we're going to win the super bowl'

On the bright side, the other wild card contenders made it that much harder for the Bears to completely blow a playoff spot with the Buccaneers, Saints and Vikings all losing. Bears are still 2 games up on a playoff spot with 4 to go. On a further bright side, the SB champion the last 2 years has come from a wild card team having to play 3 games on the road. Of course those teams had more complete teams than the bears but whatever you never know.

Stop whining. Teams lose games they should win all the time. Yeah it sucks but you gotta pick your [expletive] up and get ready for the next one. The Packers lost to the Colts earlier this year, the Giants have lost multiple games they had no business losing, the 49ers went 0-1-1 against the Rams this year, etc. But whatever, you choose to act like the world is ending each and every time we lose. Yes I know it appears the Bears don't have the pieces they need to make a SB run, but whatever, try to put a positive spin on things for once in your life.

It's crazy how little plays here and there could have turned the game in our favor -4th and inches in the red zone up 7-0. We go for a FG we're up 10-0 and have the momentum. We go for it on 4th and get it, we're possibly up 14-0 and really have the momentum -J'Marcus Webb's terrible false start penalty on 2nd and 9 from the Seattle 43, roughly a first down from FG range and a 17-10 lead with 4-5 minutes left -Jay Cutler's botched play action fumble on the next play, losing 7 yards and turning a 2nd and 9 to a 3rd and 21. The Bears decide to run a draw play instead of taking a shot at the first down, content that their defense will save the day again. The next time the Bears need big yards on a play, Cutler manages to connect with Marshall for 56 yards. -Earl Bennett's dropped TD. It couldn't have been thrown better, and there was no way he doesn't score after making the catch. Instead of 14-0, it remains 7-0 after the Bears punt a couple of plays later. I later read that Earl's concussion was suffered on his dive into the end zone for his TD earlier in the game. If that's true, I suppose that excuses him a little -And for me the most frustrating, Major Wright's dropped INT on the Seahawks 97 yard TD drive late in the 4th. If he makes that catch, and it was right in his hands, the Bears have the ball up 4 with slightly over 2 minutes left. The Bears would be a 1st down away from victory There are more, like the 15 yard horse collar tackle on Urlacher, not making adjustments to contain Wilson as he repeatedly was able to bootleg to the outside and run for first downs on several key 3rd downs (reminds me a little of the Vikings repeatedly finding their TEs wide open for key first downs last week...what does Rod Marinelli do exactly?). Of course there are several plays that would have made the Seahawks victory easier, I guess it was just that type of game. But its frustrating to know if even one of those breaks go the other way, the Bears probably win.

Shea might not have been the right pick given people like Chandler Jones were still on the board, but the more I see of him, the more I think he has a chance to be pretty good if we can find a way to use him correctly.

NFL will try to sweep this under the rug Is there any evidence that links concussion to immediate violent crime? I have a hard time believing there would be one. Not sure. I know Chris Benoit killed his wife and son then himself a few years ago and the autopsy showed he had significant brain damage due to concussions he suffered as a pro wrestler. Not sure if suicide is violent crime but I think Junior Seau killed himself in part due to how his brain functioned after a career with concussions. Of course Dave Duerson specifically said in his suicide note that he couldn't function after his football career and donated his brain to science so people can study his brain. All of that said, I still don't think concussions had anything to do with Belcher's murder-suicide but I won't completely dismiss the possibility until we know more. And whether or not it ends up being true, I wouldnt be shocked if the media played up this angle.

Sweet. It honestly didn't seem like a Bulls season without 2 starters out due to injuries.

I can't get upset when the system is designed to automatically send an undeserving team to a BCS Bowl every year (Big East champ). I think it's fine. It's clear that these mid conference schools can't play for the title no matter what they do but at least a BCS bearth gives them something to strive for.

Thought this was interesting from Lovie:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/coaches-poll12 That's a really cool graphic to help determine who each coach voted for in the final poll. I thought it was interesting that 3 people picked Michigan as high as 15th in their poll. Those people: Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly and Rich Rodriguez lol. Oh yeah and James Franklin of Vandy had ND 4th on his ballot

Again, I posted this in the other thread but the Bears still have a terrific chance of making the playoffs, even if their slide continues. If the Bears go 2-2, I'm pretty sure they are in. Ignoring Seattle, there are 4 teams that can tie us at 10-6, Washington, Dallas, Tampa Bay and Minnesota. Throw Dallas out because we win the tiebreaker. Washington and Minnesota would have to win out just to tie the Bears at 10-6. Lets look at all 3 individually. Bears (8-4): They would finish 10-6, 7-5 in the conference and either 3-3 or 4-2 in the division Minnesota (6-6): They would finish 10-6, 7-5 in conference, 4-2 in the division. Bears can clinch the tiebreaker and render this scenario moot by winning next week. If they don't, the 2 Bears wins would have to be over GB and Detroit or else Minnesota wins the tiebreaker and goes to the playoffs over the Bears. But again they have to win out if the Bears go 2-2 Washington (5-6): They'd have to win out against vs. NYG, vs. BAL, @ CLE, @ PHI, vs. DAL. If that happened, they'd finish 10-6, 8-4 in the conference and would win the tiebreaker over the Bears by conference record Tampa Bay (6-5): They are winning 10-7 over the Broncos as we speak. They would need to go 4-1 overall to tie the Bears at 10-6. If they went 4-1, with one of the victories over Denver, their conference record would only be 6-6 and the Bears would win the tiebreaker over them with a 7-5 conference record So in summary, the Bears need to wait for Minnesota and Washington to lose again. If that happens, they need to go 2-2 and hope TB loses once to make the playoffs. If they go 1-3, that's a completely different story.

Only if we miss the playoffs

Uh oh NFL will try to sweep this under the rug

Dammit of course the 49ers lose. If we would have won we'd be in a bye spot right now.

True, 17 points by an offense just isn't in any way acceptable either. I thought the offense was fine honestly considering: -We had 360 yards of total offense without touching the ball in OT -Cutler wasn't sacked all day and rarely hit in the pocket -We easily blew opportunities for a chipshot FG, and a TD (with Bennetts drop) -We also potentially blew multiple drives by conservative playcalling, essentially 'giving up' on drives -We played the 2nd half with are #1, 5 and 6 WRs being the only ones healthy -We played without 3 starting OL players from an already terrible line -We played with a gimpy clearly limited Forte -Cutler played fantastic I think the biggest concern is how bad the defense looked for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. Even when we got the stop, we got extremely fortunate in several instances such as Wilson overthrowing the TE at the goal line, and then missing him wide open the very next play, or the refs giving us the overturned touchdown pass to Edwards (it was not caught but it was very close and called a TD on the field), etc.