Right...I think the high side of our expectations was 90 wins. 15-12 would be 90 win pace through 162 games, and we'll be 14-13 if we lose today. And that is with a difficult schedule, our young nearly cant miss guys struggling at times and the pitching not performing up to their track records and expectations. A 90-72 team will have stretches where they look terrible and stretches where they look great. We've seen both so far this year and we will see both again this year. As long as our young guys are improving over the course of the season and the pitching levels out we will be a good team. /Optimistic comment due to Blackhawks and Bulls emotionally balancing the Cubs losing