As much as I would have been incredibly excited for Shaka or Stevens, there was always a small part of me that wondered whether Groce could turn out to be like Matta. Obviously Ohio State hasn't had a whole lot of trouble recruiting since he has been gone, but he did help to start things there. I know he isn't as big of a splash, but maybe his recruiting abilities will better fit Chicago than the other two would. I definitely think you are right about the gamble. I am willing to give him a chance as well. I would be less excited if it was just a coach who had some success at a mid-major, rather than a coach who has a reputation for being a good recruiter. Matta's 4 seasons before getting the OSU job: 102-31, 50-12 in conference play combined at Butler and Xavier. 3 trips to the second round and one Elite Eight. Groce's 4 seasons: 85-56, 34-30 in conference play, one 2nd round and one Sweet 16. The two are practically identical. Believe me, I know Matta had a much better record. But Xavier was a much better basketball school at the time he took over than Ohio ever was. I didn't say I love this move, but what are we supposed to do. We went after the two hottest names and they didn't come. (Speaking of which, it was pretty lucky of VCU to get into the tourney last year. If they don't, how many people know who Shaka is right now?) If a really big name coach like Sean Miller or Donovan aren't going to leave the situations they are currently in, we pretty much have to go the mid-major route. It seems like the Ohio fans love him (I know Illinois is on a completely different level, but they seem to think he finally had a team of his own players and are really excited for next year). Reading some Ohio State fans responses on some other boards, it seems like they would love to have him if Matta were to move on. I don't know, big name coaches had to start somewhere. Sometimes a hire doesn't work out (Lickliter and many many others), sometimes they turn out to be Self, Matta, etc. I just would rather take a chance on someone that at least has the possibility of being a good recruiter. Obviously he may not work out--hence the mention that it is a big gamble.