Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. Indiana relevant because they're a historically great program. Tennessee relevant because they're returning a team that lost in the 2nd round. Illinois irrelevant because they were bad last year, and we aren't talking about history here. Ummmm? EDIT: And I realize this is a really stupid argument to even care about, but I never really got my gloating in about how terrible the SEC was last year. Let me help you out here... Indiana: 25-8, 14-4 in the Big 10 (3rd). Highest profile coaching change in College Basketball. Relevant. Tennessee: 31-5, 14-2 (SEC Regular Season Champs). Ranked #1 during the season, made it to the Sweet 16. Relevant. Illinois: 16-19, 5-13, 9th in the Big 10. Irrelevant. And, yes, your argument is stupid. I guess when your team sucks, all you can do is ride the coattails of the good teams in your conference? Chris Lofton and Tyler Smith did not play for the SEC... they played for Tennessee. I don't know I would say we were relevant last year. Just for the wrong reasons. We were still on ESPN a ton and they did talk about us being down. We also were in the biggest soap opera storyline of the season. Please tell me that you didn't just claim relevance based on Gordon choosing IU over Illinois? YOu were relevant for being on the wrong end of a recruiting battle and for your fans showing a complete and total lack of class because of it?!? Okay. :good: I don't know why I'm bothering, but you're claiming relevance for IU based on being the wrong end of a scumbag coach napalming the program. Either that or you're talking about their history, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HISTORY HERE, HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO TELL US!!!!