that pitch he kept throwing was insane, it had a huge break on it it was nice seeing Lou going out there and telling dempster to get his $#% together, wouldve never happened with dusty Yes. I'm actually impressed, that, considering our offense, we got 4 runs against a pretty dominating pitch like that. They say Arroyo got better when he switched leagues, but that pitch seems like it could be an even bigger reason. That pitch would be just as good in the AL. Last year we would never have gotten 4 runs against Arroyo, and that's a real indicator to me that they are a completely different and better offensive ballclub. I dont know why so many people bagged on Lilly on his past ERA, etc.. look at the division he pitched in while in the AL! Same went for Arroyo.. I can honestly see Lilly copying Arroyo in becoming an outstanding NL pitcher.