Watching sane posters get crushed under the weight of negativity is interesting. Not criticizing you right now or singling you out. Just interesting I mean it's too early to say that's what's happening, but it easily could be. We invested a massive amount of resources in darvish/quintana/chatwood and they're completely broken walk machines. Yeah the stuff is fine or whatever, but I don't know how you can not be terrified by what they're doing, and by what ot means for the organization going forward if they dont turn it around in a big way. The only one we really invested big-time into at this point is Yu. Eloy still has to become a stud for us to really have invested anything into Q, and Chatwood is on a three-year contract that will be over in a blink of an eye, while really only making No. 4 or No. 5 starter money any way and performing like a No. 4 or No. 5. Yu for sure has to pick it up. Can't be tanking in the first year of a six-year, $126 million contract. Having two of those guys with Heyward and Yu would suck even for a big market team.