Also their arms are ticking time bombs so if they're anywhere near ready, you might as well get whatever innings you can out of them in the big leagues. Isn't there a counter-argument that pushing a top pitching prospect too fast could be detrimental since those innings in the big leagues could be so stressful? I mean I'm all for pushing talented pitching prospects when they're ready, but I don't agree with how the Marlins handled and promoted J. Fernandez. I mean it did work out, but I don't think that's the right approach for most pitching prospects. PS -- I really, really like how the Dodgers are handling J. Urias and limiting his innings/workload (even if it is costing them in the standings right now). I mean yeah you don't when to push a guy when he's not ready, whatever ready may mean (which can be a lot of things with pitchers). But if a guy has stuff capable of being in the majors I'm all for getting him to the majors as soon as possible because all pitchers have a shelf life/limited bullets. I'm not saying (don't think Raisin is either) just call a guy up and treat him like every other pitcher, you have to be cognizant about bringing him along. But you can groom a guy and be careful with him at the major league level too and still get useful innings out of him. I agree that with how Urias is being handled is pretty good and is a good example of what I think Raisin and I were talking about, he's a young guy who was pushed aggressively and is majors league capable so they are making sure to get bullets out of him now but also aren't just running him into the ground. The Cardinals have been pretty good at this too with starting guys in the bullpen early on then transition them to the rotation (Wainwright and Martinez being the biggest successes out of this) but even being careful like that has had blow ups, Wacha has been hurt on and off, Rosenthal could never make the switch (health being part of it) and now Reyes already blew out. So they were even careful and had blow ups but still got some use out of the arms before they hit their issues.