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Us the Brewers and Cardinals all seem to benefit just fine from a DH. We have old man Zobrist to preserve, Schwarber, gets Willy off catching a billion games but keeping his bat in the lineup, gets KB/Rizzo extra rest, allows a super defense lineup too. Brewers have Thames/Braun/Aguilar to rotate and old man cain and Hiura is their best prospect and bat only. Cardinals have Jose Martinez who’s maybe the worst defender in MLB, Ozuna and his bad arm, and Carpenter and his bad arm. Think we all benefit plenty in different ways.

This one has made a lot of sense to me all off season. They never really rebuild there, they have no outfielders If he doesn’t want to win for the majority of his contract since they’re absolutely stuck and in a shitty spots with contracts and age and see his career counting numbers suffer playing in that park. Then yeah, it’s a great fit

I know I'm in the minority, but I still want no part of the DH. It seems strange to me though that they would even be considering such a change less than 2 months from opening day. If and when MLB decides to adopt the DH in the NL, wouldn't it make sense to announce it early in the off-season (or sooner) to give teams a better opportunity to build their rosters? Ultimately, I expect it will be a concession by the owners in the next CBA. There is no pressing reason to do it this year.They always do this rules stuff this time every year, why idk and it doesn’t make much sense but they do. It’s not like this is a blindsided move, teams probably knew this could or would happen this year. The players largely want this, it could be a bit of an olive branch to them and the union for the last two offseasons. It helps extend careers, protect pitchers, etc.

The NL DH could happen this year. Yes, please

Clearing an OF spot for Heyward [tweet] [/tweet]

https://twitter.com/drivelinebases/status/1092591668975435776?s=21

i was looking through this old thread for something else and stumbled across this post from october 3 of last year. remember that joe sucks!

He/they are standing behind the source and rumor. Just like last year with that stupid Brewer source and Yu hopefully we end up with Bryce in the end.

Bryce to Cubs confirmed. First series back home. [tweet] [/tweet]

Theo’s on a heater today, boys! [tweet] [/tweet]

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I wonder if they're getting in because the companies like Amazon bidding backed out or lowered their offers due to the streaming rights issues?

Yeah I don’t get it either. I thought they’d be way in on at least one and also the likes of Kimbrel, Pollock, Keuchel, Corbin and some of the other RPs. They already have their full tax payer funded stadium too, it opened last year or the year before.

Right. He sucks and got a deal reflecting such, it doesn’t take away from owners sucking and this isn’t a deal really indicative of them sucking.

We’re like 3-4 years removed from Brett Anderson getting $10 million off of averaging 51 mediocre-ish innings a year for 4 years during a much more pitcher friendly era of ball. This is probably a little deeper than Wade Miley isn’t a staff savior therefore it’s easy to conclude the market has spoken. Teams are being dirtbags because people can’t wait to defend how super duper smart they are, so you’re getting situations where a Pomeranz can’t match a Phil Coke up front, lots of talented guys are taking MiL deals with low salaries if rostered, and a guy like Miley with some 1200 above average innings under his belt without a significant injury and above average physical talent will have made like $5 million the past two seasons. He’s not the best bet to be bumped from their rotation for Whitley either. This isn’t a perception/optics thing. Lance Lynn got 3/30 this offseason, Harvey got $10 million and Cobb And Chatwood got plenty last year. Teams are still spending stupidly on pitching. Wade Miley likely sucks with shitty peripherals last year and he was hurt 2-3 times and was horrible in 2017, Pomeranz was shitty and hurt last year too. What do you think these guys should’ve gotten? Miley pitched 80.something innings last year and of SP who pitched at least that (145 total) he was 143rd in K/9, 81st in BB/9, tied for 88th in xFIP, and his HR numbers were ridiculously lower than his career average (60%+ lower). His batted ball profile wasn't a ton different from his career (in fact he gave up more hard contact than his career average) and his velo was the same +/-, he just threw the cutter more. He was some HR luck, sequencing/defensive shifting/BABIP luck away from being the same shitty to league average pitcher he's always been.

So KB will be getting $30 mil+ in 3 years

I’m sure he’ll be throwing 97+ in no time going there. Teams, rightfully, weren’t buying into his ~60 good innings or whatever in between injuries last year it appears with this contract. I’d actually lean more towards this being clever than teams buying he outright sucks and last year was all fluke, particularly given the org doing the buying. It’s not as if teams are paying up for anyone the past two years so that’s definitely not a good guage Guys who are worth it the last two years are still largely getting paid in the end, even though the process and optics around the dragging out offseason sucks. The Wade Miley’s of the world aren’t, which they probably shouldn’t. I’d say the contract definitely tells me teams think last year was fraudulent and he mostly sucks. So I’d say it’s more a low risk/cheap move than being clever. Which is fine as your 5/6/7+ starter depth but he most likely just sucks and it doesn’t cost anything to give him a chance to maybe take some starts before Whitley is ready.

I’m sure he’ll be throwing 97+ in no time going there. Teams, rightfully, weren’t buying into his ~60 “good” innings or whatever in between injuries and suspect peripherals last year it appears with this contract.

This trade actually makes them better this year though seeing as KP is out for the year. This was a salary move to afford two max guys in the offseason. KD being the main guy then either a AD trade or Kyrie or Kwahi signing.

This is even less of a rumor than the gar-bahge actual reporters have said this offseason. 240 is a number a fan with an unsensational Twitter account pulled out of his ass, even if it sounds or feels right/reasonable based on stuff and things the owners want you to think I am almost certain Sharma or one (maybe multiple) of the writers around the team have said they've heard 240 is something we are willing to go to for the right move (which I think really means 246, because that's the upper limit LT threshold). FWIW. I do believe we are the team on the periphery and if the monster $400-500+ million offer doesn't come in and the final number to get him closer to $300 than $400 we can enter the bidding and have the necessary move(s), whatever it/they may be, lined up to pull it off. It is very Boras like to get a team like the Padres in the game late to try and drive up the price.

Biggest losers on the margin for error amongst division favorites, sure. Still the best team in the division though. Sooo....

The Amaya write up sounds a bit like Willy as a comp

We have the same amount of players as them projected for 3+ WAR (KB, Rizzo, Javy And Schwarbs vs Goldschmidt, Dejong, Carpenter and Ozuna) more than them over 4 (Rizzo And KB vs Goldschmidt) and the only one at 5+ in KB. We also project for more offensive WAR 28.1 vs 25.8 and their entire rotation is full of question marks. Martinez, Wacha and Reyes off injuries (all 3 have been hurt every year the last few years as well), Wainwright’s corpse, Flaherty (who I think is good) and Mikolas who are a bit unproven. Idk, they have more question marks than us in the rotation. Probably more upside but more downside and volatility. Imo. Carpenter at 3B could be a disaster as well, he can’t really throw and Ozuna is coming off a shoulder surgery and allegedly is behind for swinging and throwing already. quit trying to make me feel better