Yeah you are right. But, let's say we landed Sherron Collins. How many minutes is Trent playing for us? In the late 90s early 2000's we were landing Sheron Collins. Now we aren't. Now Trent's a starter. Sherron Collins was a 5 star player in the CPL. When did Illinois ever land that type of recruit outside of the Henson era? The teams of the early millennium were stacked with players from downstate, and the talent downstate at the time was unbelievable. Chicago recruiting is a completely different beast, and Illinois was incredibly lucky to have that sort of talent south of I-80 during that era. Dee wasn't CPL but he was a 5 star from Chicago. Also if you think that Self would have missed on Collins if he was still at the UofI then your nuts. Even then there are a lot of guys that we could have got that would be playing over Trent that were not 5 star cpl guys. Pargo, Dentmon, etc. We also could have got Evan Turner. My point sitll is Meacham isn't the type of talent that has been starting for Illinois during Self or Kruger's eras. Barring the one year that Kruger had Frankie Williams ruled inelligible Self may not have missed, but I am not convinced it would have been completely legal either.