Frazier 5.9ppg, 6.5apg, 4.7rpg, 1.4spg Kramer 3.7ppg, 2.7apg, 2.9rpg, 2.2spg Kramer is averaging less minutes and is a better defender, but Chester is great on defense and makes the offense run. In terms of his value to the team he is pretty much not replaceable. I hope that he is on the Illinois bench one day.