If Stafford can stay healthy for a full season, they could be a playoff team within the next year or two. add to that that I think it could take 11 wins to be assured the wild card anymore. considering GB and Chi could teeter-totter 1-2 in the division, and 11 wins is a good amount for Chicago, if Detroit gets better and splits the series with Chicago, Chicago doesn't get the WC. The vikings, on the other hand, are headed for a rough time considering their stadium situation, aging players (D-line) and lack of QB. as I've said, anything to keep Detroit down. Buy japanese cars, fly southwest, just keep Detroit down (I'm kidding here)