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I'll take it! They'll most likely beat Iowa at home, I don't know who else they'll get though. i think their home games against northwestern, iowa, penn state and maybe illinois/ohio st are not automatic losses. they won't win a road game and they won't beat a team like purdue or michigan st. realistically i can't see them winning more than 4 games, and 1-2 is more likely. Maybe its me just being pessimistic but Purdue and IU always play close.

I would say 1st-3rd. It all depends on Combine and Pro Day. He is the type that can shoot up boards because he has all the things that look great at the Combine. It really all comes down to his Wonderlic and interviews. He doesn't come off bright (at least with the media) as you are well aware of. If he comes off that same way with the teams and has a average to bad Wonderlic he will fall to the third round. If he does well on both those he could jump up to the first round. I would say unless he just bombs everything or kicks butt at everything he's a lock for 2nd round. I would say right around the 10th pick or so :beg: .

Dudes Curtis Painter is going first. I don't know what you guys are smokin.

hey, if you apple+c his post, you've got your next front page article! could be control+c to him

Maybe you should know what the hell you're looking at before criticizing. Or maybe you should look before talking out your arse. No where on that page does he have anything explaining an adjustment. All it is is the schedule so far with his predictions the rest of the way. If you go to the blog portion where he has a bunch of explanations for things you will find one for the schedule portion. No where in that explanation does he say they are adjusted for close games. All that it says is, "Predictions are based on the current values of the adjusted efficiencies and tempo, with home court advantage factored in." He added Purdue's projected record up wrong as I said before.

i think psu wins either 7 or 8 games the rest of the way, ending up 21-10 or 20-11 going into the big ten tourney. their OOC schedule was such a joke that i think they need to end up a couple of games better and then win at least one game in the big ten tourney. thing is, his projected W's and L's are hard to argue with. He has PSU beating IU twice (duh), then Minnesota, Iowa and Michigan at home. If you want to squeeze out 2 or 3 wins, you're talking about a win @ Iowa (totally doable), then maybe Wisconsin at home or @ OSU. i don't think illinois is as good as they're rated right now; i actually think that penn state should beat illinois here. i don't think any of the home games (including wisconsin and michigan st) are out of reach. the only road games that are basically auto-losses are @purdue and @michigan st. @illinois is probably a loss but for some reason we seem to do okay there. i don't think there are any road games, aside from indiana, that penn state should necessarily be expected to win. You should be favored at Iowa His predictions have PSU losing by 2 @Iowa and by 2 at home against Wisconsin, which basically means two coin flips. By his numbers, PSU could win both yeah but he also penn state at 52% to beat michigan at home, 59% to beat iowa at home and 29% to beat illinois at home. those all seem too low to me. I'm not sure I can trust any projection where simple math can't be done correctly. http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Purdue He has Purdue going 12-3 the rest of the way but somehow finishing 22-9 (11-7). If they go 12-3 they will be 24-7 (13-5). Makes me question what else is wrong.

:banghead: I had N.D. +6.5. Way to blow it guys. I picked ND to make more 3-pters in the ESPN Streak. Seemed safe since Notre Dame shoots 40%+ and Louisville shoots in the 30's. Like all my safe bets on the streak (home teams, highly favored teams) I lost.

His "major contributors, significant contributors, role players, limited roles" categories are going to either need a larger sample to be accurate or some fine-tuning. Yeah, I was hoping there'd be an explanation on the main page explaining those, but there was none. He doesn't really measure individual defense, so those rankings seem to be offensive based only with in the very least a large slant towards scoring. The titles are more just fun to see so you can make fun of Chris Kramer being ranked "nearly invisible" The new information is really interesting and exciting. However, it definitely needs some fine-tuning, I think. Any player ranking system that has Malik Story and Verdell Jones III ahead of Nick Williams based on this season has some flaws. ETA: That probably won't sound egregious for non-IU fans, I know. I'm assuming there are better examples nation-wide; but, from a micro perspective, Williams has clearly been superior. He's got Calasan ahead of Johnson and Hummel for Purdue... LOL I love Calasan but Hummel and Johnson are clearly better.

Maybe this is the year 0-2 teams win their conference. Purdue started 0-2 and still can win the Big Ten and UNC is now 0-2 in the ACC.

I think Eagles win although with it being in Arizona I don't know. I really don't know who to root for. As a 49er fan who still loves TO I don't know what to do. On one hadn I don't want the Cardinals winning a Superbowl and they've done enough to get at least some respect to the NFC West. However I don't want the Eagles to win because I know ESPN will talk about how McNabb got back before TO did.

After the last run its more like Cunningham. I was just referencing his fumbles. They also have really strong arms and learning disabilities in common. Dave Pasch just had a line I bet NFL coaches/scouts loved to hear in reference to him: "The coaches say he's just a slow learner." I know. I wasn't disagreeing or taking offense. Its almost half time and I would say you were right he has looked a lot more like Culpepper in the game ... the Culpepper of today.

After the last run its more like Cunningham.

Why is this game on tonight. This is a crap game that should have been played before Jan. 2. Playing on New Year's Day used to actually mean something. Its like the Tuesday night games. This game being played between two of the biggest bowls games makes absolutely no sense...Good luck Ball State though I'm routing for ya It makes perfect sense ... for the MAC. I'm at Ladd-Peebles Stadium right now getting ready for the game. The stadium is old but its got a lot of history. The weather won't be very good at the least. Its already poured for about 20 minutes, although it just quit. The weather report is a huge storm will move in sometime tonight that could bring tornadoes with it (its like a Midwest Spring here weather wise).

Well guys I leave at 9:30 tomorrow morning for Mobile and the GMAC Bowl. Probably won't be on much at all the next four days.

Ayers shot so well because you watched the game on a TV owned by a very swell guy.

I like this ... "Aaron Miles was my favorite player" "I wish him nothing but the worst"

Me 2

Technically I didn't misspell anything. I jut used through rather than throw.

Losers say what? :lol: [-X I dont know what the "losers" have to say, but the winners say SUCK IT... I was wondering if anyone would go back and through that in my face. Thats the problem with trash talk. When you lose you can't say anything.

If he has any say on how the offense is run they will never get out of the dumps. Chaney was ungodly awful as an OC at Purdue. If you look at just straight statistics you might think he was a pretty good OC but when he was around we had dominant offenses every year because we had great players. My family (some Purdue fans for over 80 years) used to scream and cuss almost every game over Chaney's play calling. If something works he will start doing something else to try and catch the defense off guard. For instance in games that Purdue would have almost 300 yards passing by halftime Chaney would have Purdue come out for the second half running. We used to play a QB1 style game when watching the games to see who could predict the play Purdue was about to run. No joke I was right about 70-75% of the time (had to name play type and primary direction). If I can guess what Chaney has called that much imagine what opposing defenses can do. It just happened that Tiller's spread offense makes it so 50% of the time you can't do anything to stop the offense as long as you have a good QB. Purdue had great QB's when Chaney was here so the offense succeeded in spite of him. In all seriousness I'm pretty sure I could have done better than Chaney as Purdue's OC. This doesn't sound good at all. Anytime someone starts telling you they can predict the play before it happens and including that in their rant, ignore everything. When they start saying they seriously could have done a better job as OC, tune them out forever. Go to most any message board of a non top 5 team and you'll find meatballs saying the same thing about their offensive coordinator. It's the cool and easy thing to do. 95% of the time they're wrong and vastly underestimate the complexity of what's going on and don't realize that OC's are not just calling a play on 2nd and 8 to be successful on 2nd and 8. They have a gameplan, they're doing things for a reason and they're trying to set up certain actions for future plays. Well since I grew up going to the games and make my living studying games I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Purdue football. The me being a better OC part was mainly a joke. Chaney is a God awful OC who literally cost us a couple bowl wins. An example is a team that passes for 3,500 yards in the regular season comes into their bowl game running 80% of the time, get down big, start passing and make a comeback. Purdue did that two or three straight years with Chaney as the OC.

Read the posts before you spout off. Everyone has said this call didn't decide the game and in reality isn't that big of a deal.

You don't remember because it never came up. The thing I'm most mad about is the lack of replaying it. They should have come back after break and showed it from a couple angles to see if Johnson stepped out first and the such.

That would make it Purdue ball. incorrect. the ball would have to go off of an inbounds illinois player and then go out in order to maintain possession. since McCamey was out of bounds, hitting him with the ball was no different than hitting the floor, the hoop, a cheerleader, etc. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that a player standing out-of-bounds is considered the same as the floor or a cheerleader. Ok here is the official rule for the NCAA rulebook: The last one is the most important one here. It says, if "a player on or outside a boundary" is the last to touch "such player shall have caused the ball to go out of bounds." This means it doesn't matter if McNamey was consider out of bounds if he was the last one to touch it then it is Purdue ball. So the question becomes did the ball go back off of Johnson. The replays I saw didn't look like it did and the spin of the ball never changed after hitting McNamey. Therefore it should have been Purdue ball. Still it really doesn't matter Purdue would have likely lost anyways. The missed free throws and overall bad shooting and not this play is what the loss should be blamed on.

kramer's still better. And he is, but that's besides the point I'd just like to point out that Chester has been playing hurt for four years. I don't think he has ever been 100% healthy for any game. He is a warrior and I am glad the fan base is finally embracing him. I really like Kramer's game also, what is the latest on his injury, Purdue is not the same without him. I also read that Hummel is banged up, anyone have news on that? And so has Kramer. Tell me of Kramer's high school injuries. Years are counted differently at Purdue apparently. OMG dude are you really this nitpicky? You know what I mean so stop being a prick. Chester has played hurt the entire time he has been at Illinois and Kramer has been hurt the entire time he has been at Purdue. Plus a "compartmental syndrome" in shins doesn't all of sudden come about. You might want to read about it. Kramer has probably been playing with pain for a very long time.

That would make it Purdue ball.