Do you get itchy building these straw men? I didn't say that playing football makes men into wife beaters, I just said it shouldn't come as a surprise when they are. You don't know what a straw man is. It's a "surprise" because most of them AREN'T wife beaters. It's a dumb attempt to inexplicably try to denigrate people who are horrified by this because...[expletive], I don't even know why you're doing that. It's a horrible thing that people are reacting strongly to, but you have an issue with that because they're not just dismissing it as "psh, whatever, of course athletes are beating their wives and kids and [expletive], ah-doy." Why would it possibly bother you that people are "shocked" or "surprised" over this? Every time you post I need to go back and re-read what I wrote, because I feel like you're reading something completely different