Derwood

then i don't think you understand the question The question posed by the OP is pretty clear: It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB. i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years. however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again. the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them. do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't That's the worst argument I think I've ever read on here. The Cubs wouldn't be selling out if they post a 95 loss season no matter what. Look what happend at the end of last year. This entire thread is a text book example of specious reasoning. I don't get it. It's moronic to conclude that winning would hurt the Cubs in popularity, even if they suck the next year. you're being narrow-minded. how many "fans" are hanging in there to say they were fans when the team finally wins (and would quickly jump ship afterwards)? and please, don't take this as meaning that I don't want them to win. i could really give a crap what fair weather fans do after the Cubs win it. i'm just making an argument

then i don't think you understand the question The question posed by the OP is pretty clear: It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB. i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years. however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again. the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them. do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't

then i don't think you understand the question

I'm all over it... i'll PM you if I need the help. I can start Saturday's thread for sure if we win this afternoon

It's a mystery down there? wow, I must have been tired. I meant to say "without my groin ever exploding"

i mentioned this a few weeks ago. you will lose a lot of bandwagon fans, but not enough to really mean much to the team's bottom line

i will be thrilled to get through life without my groin ever explained

has he played his game at catcher yet?

if we're fortunate enough to still be winning on saturday, someone may have to pinch-hit for me as game thread starter. don't know if i'll have the laptop with me on vacation

none of those links work

as long as they don't reintroduce the blue alternates next year, i'll be happy

at least they're not red

wow, did they hire someone from the Graphic Arts 101 class at Clearwater Community College to come up with those?

IBL

1 1/2

two away!

but they're the Indians Why don't you understand it? The Yankess play in NY and the Indians play in the Cleve. Face it, these "experts" need quotes around them. my point was that Cleveland's track record in the post season is nearly as futile as the Cubs

but they're the Indians

funny how you don't see businessmen thumping their chests and pointing at the sky after business meetings

so much love that they almost get to the highlights in the first 1/2 of Sportscenter /almost

is park adjusted OPS+ only adjusted for the player's home park?

I wasn't commenting on the fist pump though. I'm only talking about the point to the sky right before he goes into the dugout. i think he knows it gets him on TV. i have no problem with him thanking God, but let's not pretend that genuflecting in front of TV cameras and 40,000 people isn't for show I dont think it necessarily is. If he really wanted to make a spectacle out of it he could do it when he was atop the mound; but he doesnt. He does it one step away from the dugout, or if nothing else when he is crossing the foul line. You can say "well why doesn't he do it in the dugout, then." Well, most likely because you can't see the sky in the dugout, and that's the whole point of what he's doing. agree to disagree then. i'm sure there a great many ballplayers who quietly thank god or say a prayer without making a big deal out of it.

just here to say that I used to have a Maui Stingrays shirt that I wore for almost 10 years. that is all

State College is built mostly around PSU and our minor league team (Short-A, Pittsburgh) has done very well in it's first two years

I wasn't commenting on the fist pump though. I'm only talking about the point to the sky right before he goes into the dugout. i think he knows it gets him on TV. i have no problem with him thanking God, but let's not pretend that genuflecting in front of TV cameras and 40,000 people isn't for show