Most of the current Braves have very little history against Marquis. Andruw Jones killed him, but he's moved on. Chipper has hit 3 home runs against him in only 6 at-bats. Overall though, there's no real idea if this Braves squad is a bad matchup for him. every matchup is a bad matchup with marquis That's not really true. Let's give Marquis credit for the good starts he's had. He's not a 65 ERA+ pitcher this year. He's a 95 ERA+ pitcher, which isn't really all that horrible for a #5. The Braves are no juggernaut this year, it's nothing like facing them when they were a playoff team. The other thing is, he's been holding pretty steady through the year. Putting up some bad starts, then some mediocre ones, with a smattering of good starts. We're in mid August now, which is usually well past the time when Jason collapses. Hasn't happened yet. Let's hope it continues. I agree with what you're saying. I take issue with the bolded part though. It's much better than "not all that horrible." For a number five starter, it's actually pretty great. With Marquis, its not so much complaining about what hes done so far this season, its his history of completely coming undone in the second half, and while it hasnt happened yet, its anticipating every time he steps on the mound. I guess Dempster hasnt reverted to bad Dempster, and doesnt seem to show any signs of doing so, so maybe theres hope for Marquis this season. With Rich Hill and Sean Marshall on the 2009 horizin, maybe Marquis can build up some OK trade value for the offseason. He could be a number 4 or maybe 3 starter on a lot of teams. Hell, he could be a number 2 on Washington.