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It's not just a limited role. It's a limited role, plus going back to where he had so many years and was made out to be a scapegoat when he left. Why would he want to come back here? He loves the city. Sosa is a romantic and wants to win a championship in a city in which he was loved. He wants the adoration of the bleacher bums as he once again sprints out to Wrigley. He wants a ring which has alluded him and he won't get in Texas. There's lots of reasons he might want to come back. Just as he were made the scapegoat, Baker could be made the scapegoat in his departure. Stop arguing that he would might come back. We all (save one Reds fan) know it could happen. I just dont think its all that good of an idea. I'm glad you "know" it could happen. Too bad it won't. -
He doesn't have to retire. He could simply take 2 months off and become a free agent at the end of the year. He can control where he does (or does not) go. And how many teams would take a gander on him next offseason if he showed that kind of attitude. He practically had to beg Texas to get the job he got this year because there were concerns about his attitude. He's been close to a model citizen this year; I doubt he throws it all away because he may have reduced AB's over two months. There will always be somebody willing give him a chance. Washington last year, Texas this year and I am sure next year another bad team going nowhere will offer him a chance for a job. Cincinnati? Wouldn't surprise me. Seems like a Krivsky guy to me.
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It's not just a limited role. It's a limited role, plus going back to where he had so many years and was made out to be a scapegoat when he left. Why would he want to come back here?
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He doesn't have to retire. He could simply take 2 months off and become a free agent at the end of the year. He can control where he does (or does not) go. And how many teams would take a gander on him next offseason if he showed that kind of attitude. He practically had to beg Texas to get the job he got this year because there were concerns about his attitude. He's been close to a model citizen this year; I doubt he throws it all away because he may have reduced AB's over two months. There will always be somebody willing give him a chance. Washington last year, Texas this year and I am sure next year another bad team going nowhere will offer him a chance for a job.
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He doesn't have to retire. He could simply take 2 months off and become a free agent at the end of the year. He can control where he does (or does not) go.
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Once again, it's a 1014 OPS vs left-handers which is why you acquire him. I'm digging that. That's mashing LHP. Of course, keep ignoring things that don't help your argument. He doesn't exactly have a large sample size vs. lefties.
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Yeah, Vazquez played a year, then got traded. Soriano played a year, then refused to re-sign. Neither team sniffed the playoffs. That worked well. . The thing is, these guys were traded to teams they didn't want to play for -- but they had to play or it would cost them a lot of money. As you don't know, Vazquez used a clause every player has to demand a trade. He forced his way out because he didn't want to go there. Sosa can't do that. If Sosa came out and said, "I won't play for the Cubs" then the deal wouldn't happen. Sosa is making the league minimum on a one year deal. It wouldn't cost him alot of money, and he would still be a free agent at the end of the year. he could do that, but would he? not likely. thats all he can do. Oh he could do that? I thought he didn't have a say in where he goes?
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Yeah, Vazquez played a year, then got traded. Soriano played a year, then refused to re-sign. Neither team sniffed the playoffs. That worked well. . The thing is, these guys were traded to teams they didn't want to play for -- but they had to play or it would cost them a lot of money. As you don't know, Vazquez used a clause every player has to demand a trade. He forced his way out because he didn't want to go there. Sosa can't do that. If Sosa came out and said, "I won't play for the Cubs" then the deal wouldn't happen. Sosa is making the league minimum on a one year deal. It wouldn't cost him alot of money, and he would still be a free agent at the end of the year.
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Yeah, Vazquez played a year, then got traded. Soriano played a year, then refused to re-sign. Neither team sniffed the playoffs. That worked well. Both of those trades happend in the offseason too, not in the middle of a pennant race where somebody could come in and cost a team a playoff run.
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I'm sure there's a sentence somewhere in there, but I can't find it. There ya go. However, Sosa has no control. No NTC. The Rangers could trade him to the Devil Rays if they wanted to. Have you ever seen somebody traded to a place where he truly did not want to play? Soriano to the Nationals, spring 2006. Soriano didn't want to play left, he didn't mind going to the Nationals.
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I'm sure there's a sentence somewhere in there, but I can't find it. There ya go. However, Sosa has no control. No NTC. The Rangers could trade him to the Devil Rays if they wanted to. Have you ever seen somebody traded to a place where he truly did not want to play?
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I'm sure there's a sentence somewhere in there, but I can't find it. I love it. I come here and try to be an unbiased fan and post things related to the Cubs. I posted the Jacque trade that was done, and all it had to be was approved by the commish. Then I post the RUMOR, which I clearly marked as such, about Dunn going to the Brewers and that one turned out not to be true. I said it was a rumor. Yet I continued to be ripped on for no reason by the so called best poster on the site.
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Then you are living in a fantasy world. A guy with 600 homers is not going to go somewhere and platoon. It's got nothing to do with sources, it has to do with me using my brain. He'll be no more than a platoon player in Texas anyway. Don't you think he'd rather be a part-time player for a contender than for a bad team? I do.Not back in the town where he was made famous and where he left on awful terms and was made to be a scapegoat by the organization. I don't think he would want to come back if he was playing everyday. Time has a tendancy to heal wounds. He'd only be commited to play for the Cubs the rest of this year. If the experience is unpleasant he can always sign elsewhere for next year.If Sosa comes back to the Cubs I will leave the board for ever. And you can quote me. It won't happen. Simple as that. Now I can add another reason to my desire to see Sammy return in addition to improving the team and the sentimentality of it. It may not happen, but it would be because of Hendry not pulling the strings, not because of any control Sosa has over the process or lack of desire to trade him by the Rangers. You're wrong is you think Sosa can't control where he goes, at least to some extent.
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Then you are living in a fantasy world. A guy with 600 homers is not going to go somewhere and platoon. It's got nothing to do with sources, it has to do with me using my brain. He'll be no more than a platoon player in Texas anyway. Don't you think he'd rather be a part-time player for a contender than for a bad team? I do.Not back in the town where he was made famous and where he left on awful terms and was made to be a scapegoat by the organization. I don't think he would want to come back if he was playing everyday. Time has a tendancy to heal wounds. He'd only be commited to play for the Cubs the rest of this year. If the experience is unpleasant he can always sign elsewhere for next year.If Sosa comes back to the Cubs I will leave the board for ever. And you can quote me. It won't happen. Simple as that.
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Then you are living in a fantasy world. A guy with 600 homers is not going to go somewhere and platoon. It's got nothing to do with sources, it has to do with me using my brain. He'll be no more than a platoon player in Texas anyway. Don't you think he'd rather be a part-time player for a contender than for a bad team? I do.Not back in the town where he was made famous and where he left on awful terms and was made to be a scapegoat by the organization. I don't think he would want to come back if he was playing everyday. I also don't think Hendry wants him back.
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Then you are living in a fantasy world. A guy with 600 homers is not going to go somewhere and platoon. It's got nothing to do with sources, it has to do with me using my brain.
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How can you say Dunn is 8 runs worse defensivley then Glaus when you have Glaus playing out of position (SS or RF) with the Cubs? Makes no sense. Because RF isn't a very hard position to play. The way these weights are decided use real data of players making the transition too and from positions, so it accounts for it. How can you account for a guy switching positions that he has never played before? Where does this comes from? looking how over and under average guys were before and after at different positions. Hypothetically if a guy is +4 at one position, and -5 the second position. Then a second guy is -5 at the first and -12 at the other, then we can estimate that the difference in average between the two is about 8 or so. So you can look at what Joe Blow did at a position and decide what Troy Glaus will do there? Doesn't work that way.
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Colorado won't trade him. They're only 5.5 out of 1st. I don't think he's available. I think Dunn and especially Glaus would be cheaper to acquire. First, my math was correct all the way up to saying what Glaus would do, Glaus in RF would make us at 91.5, Murton would make us 90.5. Helton would be our best move, a +26.6 run net and +2.5 wins to 92.1. Sorry about the false hope earlier...about .5 a win of it. Yeah, that's a lock. Take it to the bank.
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Sosa is an outs machine. An out machine who hasn't made an out in over 40% of his PAs against lefties. You think Sosa will come back to the Cubs and platoon? Not gonna happen. He's essentially being platooned in Texas. He's still getting AB's because Wash likes him, but the GM is shopping him heavily. Sosa wouldn't have much choice in his role if he's traded. He no longer has that clout. Sure, I'd hope there would be discussions with him about his role before following through, but you make it sound like he has a NTC or something. He doesn't. Sosa also wants to play next year and making an ass of himself at this stage wouldn't further that cause. AB's vs. LHP: 74 AB vs. RHP: 224 I guess that's estentially being platooned. If you don't think players can controll where they want to go without having a NTC, then you are nuts. Texas won't trade him somewhere he won't want to go. Link? Link to what?
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Sosa is an outs machine. An out machine who hasn't made an out in over 40% of his PAs against lefties. You think Sosa will come back to the Cubs and platoon? Not gonna happen. He's essentially being platooned in Texas. He's still getting AB's because Wash likes him, but the GM is shopping him heavily. Sosa wouldn't have much choice in his role if he's traded. He no longer has that clout. Sure, I'd hope there would be discussions with him about his role before following through, but you make it sound like he has a NTC or something. He doesn't. Sosa also wants to play next year and making an ass of himself at this stage wouldn't further that cause. AB's vs. LHP: 74 AB vs. RHP: 224 I guess that's estentially being platooned. If you don't think players can controll where they want to go without having a NTC, then you are nuts. Texas won't trade him somewhere he won't want to go.
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Sosa is an outs machine. vs LH pitching: .333/434/580/1.014 Not a lot of outs there. But, don't let facts get in the way of a good point, ok? Sosa's not going to come here and platoon. There is no chance of that happening. Same thing goes for the gold glove 1st baseman from Colorado coming here to play RF. And before you say Sosa doesn't have a NTC, it doesn't matter. If he doesn't want to go somewhere, he'll make sure he doesn't.
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Sosa is an outs machine. An out machine who hasn't made an out in over 40% of his PAs against lefties. You think Sosa will come back to the Cubs and platoon? Not gonna happen.
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How can you say Dunn is 8 runs worse defensivley then Glaus when you have Glaus playing out of position (SS or RF) with the Cubs? Makes no sense. Because RF isn't a very hard position to play. The way these weights are decided use real data of players making the transition too and from positions, so it accounts for it. How can you account for a guy switching positions that he has never played before? Where does this comes from?
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Sosa is an outs machine.
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How can you say Dunn is 8 runs worse defensivley then Glaus when you have Glaus playing out of position (SS or RF) with the Cubs? Makes no sense.
