guys ive been saying PSU is good for weeks now. im just saying no one else in the big ten is any good. its like USC in the pac ten. if PSU slips up one week theyre completely out of it. a team with equal losses from the SEC or Big XII will pass PSU (or USC). And for the most part the SEC and Big XII teams losses are to top ten teams (UGA to Bama), (OU to UT), (Mizzou or UT to the other), (LSU to UF?) and so on. The problem is Penn State won't play any one in that class. Im not going to move a team with one loss below them just because PSU has no losses (i am talking about OU, not LSU or UF at this time). I really don't think PSU has enough athleticism to hang with the cream of the Big XII or SEC. They do have some players that matchup, but nowhere near the depth. Really, the NC should be the Big XII champion versus the SEC unless someone else goes undefeated. If PSU loses to Ohio State, you can make a legitimate case that a two loss SEC or Big XII team would deserve to get in the NC Over them. That's the problem with playing in a weak conference. You have to win out.