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Crawford 64.1 Aramis Ramirez 64.0 Torii Hunter 63.3 Joey Votto 63.1 Kelly Johnson 62.6 Mark Reynolds 61.3 Derrek Lee 60.7 Adrian Beltre 60.7 Gary Sheffield 60.2 Adam Dunn 56.3 Jhonny Peralta 55.8 Hideki Matsui 55.5 Chris Young 54.8 Justin Morneau 53.8 Alexis Rios 52.4 Dan Uggla 52.1 Carlos Ruiz 51.0 JJ Hardy 50.9 Lastings Milledge 49.6 Josh Hamilton 48.5 Jeff Kent 48.4 Ichiro Suzuki 46.3 Ian Kinsler 46.0 Howie Kendrick 45.9 Delmon Young 45.7 Juan Encarnacion 45.5 Ivan Rodriguez 45.4 Geovany Soto 45.1 Brian Roberts 44.7 Orlando Cabrera 43.3 Aaron Rowand 42.8 Paul Konerko 42.4 Adrian Gonzalez 42.1 Johnny Damon 41.2 Alex Gordon 41.1 Brad Hawpe 40.8 Jason Bay 40.5 Kevin Kouzmanoff 38.6 Jeff Francoeur 37.9 Andruw Jones 34.5 Vernon Wells 33.5 Carlos Delgado 32.9 AJ Pierzynski 30.2 Rickie Weeks 29.5 Khalil Greene 28.4 Placido Polanco 27.7 Chone Figgins 27.4 Raul Ibanez 26.9 Mike Napoli 26.4 Kevin Youkilis 26.3 Troy Glaus 25.4 Kazuo Matsui 24.7 Jarrod Saltalamacchia 23.9 Jason Varitek 21.6 Nick Swisher 21.4 Jeremy Hermida 21.0 Felipe Lopez 19.5 Juan Pierre 19.1 Felix Pie 17.9 JD Drew 17.6 Justin Upton 16.2 Bengie Molina 16.1 Julio Lugo 14.2 Austin Kearns 14.2 Aaron Hill 12.2 Carlos Pena 12.0 Michael Cuddyer 11.3 Paul Lo Duca 10.7 Ronny Paulino 10.4 Jacoby Ellsbury 9.6 Luis Castillo 9.4 Josh Willingham 8.9 Ryan Doumit 8.7 Ryan Theriot 7.3 Jose Guillen 6.8 Ramon Hernandez 5.9 Eric Byrnes 5.9 Gary Matthews 4.4 Billy Butler 3.6 Pat Burrell 3.2 Scott Rolen 2.8 Akinori Iwamura 2.1 Yuniesky Betancourt 1.8 Jermaine Dye 1.4 Orlando Hudson 0.8 Jason Bartlett 0.7 Freddy Sanchez -0.2 James Loney -0.8 Stephen Drew -0.8 Adam LaRoche -1.4 Eric Chavez -5.2 Andre Ethier -6.2 Jack Cust -6.3 Conor Jackson -6.4 Bill Hall -7.0 David Eckstein -7.2 Mike Jacobs -7.3 Hank Blalock -8.1 Rocco Baldelli -8.2 Dustin Pedroia -8.3 Melky Cabrera -9.2 Mark Ellis -9.3 Jim Thome -10.6 Rick Ankiel -11.8 Willy Taveras -12.1 Mark Teahen -13.0 Melvin Mora -13.0 Ken Griffey -13.7 Yunel Escobar -15.9 David DeJesus -19.5 Kurt Suzuki -22.3 Mike Lowell -22.5 John Buck -22.5 Ryan Garko -22.8 Brandon Wood -23.0 Garret Anderson -26.8 Moises Alou -27.4 Shane Victorino -27.7 Brian Giles -28.2 Jack Wilson -30.5 Frank Thomas -30.6 Ty Wigginton -35.6 Matt Diaz -36.3 Chris Duncan -36.9 Joey Gathright -38.2 Randy Winn -39.4 Cristian Guzman -40.0 Ron Belliard -40.4 Wily Mo Pena -43.2 Chris Snyder -44.6 Dioner Navarro -46.3 Gerald Laird -46.6 Daric Barton -47.0 Dmitri Young -47.7 Michael Barrett -48.0 Luke Scott -48.0 Dave Ross -48.1 Gregg Zaun -48.3 Franklin Gutierrez -50.1 Josh Bard -50.7 Danny Richar -52.3 Xavier Nady -52.6 Jason Kendall -53.1 Ray Durham -54.1 Coco Crisp -54.3 Chris Denorfia -54.6 Jason Giambi -56.4 Mark DeRosa -56.7 Brendan Harris -57.1 Ross Gload -57.4 Jason Kubel -57.6 Nomar Garciaparra -59.9 Marcus Thames -60.9 Jacque Jones -60.9 Asdrubal Cabrera -61.3 Aubrey Huff -61.6 Yorvit Torrealba -61.7 Jose Bautista -61.8 Travis Buck -62.2 Richie Sexson -62.5 Adam Everett -63.8 Bobby Crosby -64.5 Lyle Overbay -65.2 Jose Vidro -65.5 Ryan Church -65.7 Alex Gonzalez -66.2 Tony Pena -67.2 Casey Kotchman -67.3 Adam Lind -68.0 Jonny Gomes -69.0 Jose Lopez -69.5 Casey Blake -71.4 Jim Edmonds -71.9 Frank Catalanotto -72.0 Dan Ortmeier -72.2 Joe Crede -72.4 Yadier Molina -72.6 Omar Vizquel -72.6 Nate McLouth -73.1 Brian Schneider -73.5 Brandon Jones -73.5 Ryan Freel -74.5 Brendan Ryan -76.0 Mike Rabelo -76.9 Geoff Jenkins -78.1 Carlos Quentin -78.4 Kevin Millar -78.8 Carlos Gomez -79.2 Erick Aybar -79.2 Josh Barfield -79.2 Mark Grudzielanek -79.7 Marcus Giles -79.8 Wilson Betemit -80.0 Marlon Byrd -80.1 Michael Bourn -80.3 Dave Roberts -80.4 Ben Broussard -81.0 Milton Bradley -81.5 Kendry Morales -82.6 Adam Jones -83.0 Adam Kennedy -83.7 Mike Lamb -85.0 Dan Johnson -85.4 Cliff Floyd -85.6 Scott Hairston -87.9 Cody Ross -88.6 Rich Aurilia -88.9 Mark Kotsay -88.9 Elijah Dukes -89.0 Jay Payton -89.2 Reed Johnson -89.2 Gabe Gross -89.3 Jason Michaels -89.6 Josh Wilson -90.1 Wes Helms -90.4 Jorge Cantu -91.5 Luis Hernandez -91.7 Scott Hatteberg -93.6 Chris Snelling -95.1 Jay Gibbons -96.0 Craig Monroe

But the trees only grow in Texas and Southern California. and the Dominican Republic.

Actually they do. Ryan O'Malley, Jae-kuk Ryu and Randy Wells fall under that description.

i didnt say i didnt think he was going to win it god.

because they have four guys for two positions. Only two of {Owens, Quentin, Fields, Crede} can play

ugh, it should have been obvious i wasnt being serious that it is "done" god

he still counts in my definition the great american smallpark will hurt bruces eqa. left handed hitters will help minimize the eqa change due to the crawford boxes at enron for towles. towles will hit in the neighborhood of .290 with 20 HR and 15 SB if he gets 400 AB.

I didn't say that wasn't going to happen. The highest NL rookie EqA will belong to Rasmus, or Maybin. or Upton. or .... but Rasmus will have tops, that's my guess. I'm pretty sure he meant higher in the ROY voting. Nope.

I didn't say that wasn't going to happen. The highest NL rookie EqA will belong to Rasmus, or Maybin. or Upton. or .... but Rasmus will have tops, that's my guess.

I wouldn't go that far. Daisuke was supposed to be a shoe in for 2007. Bruce will put up better numbers than Fukudome. Towles will win. It's a done deal sealed.

Macias crapped out in Japan. Go Pirates...

I wouldn't go that far. Daisuke was supposed to be a shoe in for 2007. This year it's all about JR Towles, unfortunately.

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szy said it was a mistake, should be 7 SB, 3 CS.

no, but Fukudome is coming of a season where he missed half the games. The system does not know if it was from a broken wrist, ripped out heart or ineffectiveness. Lee had that happen two years. Don't read into them.

who cares? minimal differences.

vitters will be around 40. soto around 50 and colvin around 60. fukudome is probably top 40

it doesnt try to project pt

Pie: 2008 .269/.321/.429 - ZiPS 2008 .283/.333/.456 - Bill James 2007 .288/.342/.480 - PECOTA 2007 .257/.304/.401 - ZiPS PECOTA is usually optimistic on him. Expect something like .295/.350/.475, which wont happen of course.

Hes no JR Towles.

Every projection system is going to. PECOTA is usually the most negative to guys with little time in the majors. They ought to be out within a week or two. They came out the fifteenth last year, iirc.

2008 Cubs ZiPS are up: Name P Age AVG OBP SLG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS Derrek Lee 1b 32 .300 .382 .517 123 460 76 138 32 1 22 78 57 97 7 3 Aramis Ramirez 3b 30 .292 .354 .531 138 524 78 153 32 3 29 100 46 62 1 1 Kosuke Fukudome* rf 31 .293 .382 .460 120 457 66 134 33 2 13 67 64 100 1 1 AVERAGE 1B ------------- 1b ---- .282 .359 .489 ------------------------------------------ Alfonso Soriano lf 32 .286 .336 .527 141 588 97 168 39 2 33 99 39 133 28 9 Matt Murton lf 26 .289 .360 .465 156 471 71 136 27 1 18 63 51 67 3 0 AVERAGE LF ------------- lf ---- .281 .352 .469 ------------------------------------------ AVERAGE RF ------------- rf ---- .280 .349 .471 ------------------------------------------ Geovany Soto c 25 .284 .342 .483 139 458 44 130 29 1 20 73 41 109 0 0 AVERAGE 3B ------------- 3b ---- .277 .346 .457 ------------------------------------------ AVERAGE CF ------------- cf ---- .275 .339 .433 ------------------------------------------ AVERAGE 2B ------------- 2b ---- .279 .340 .422 ----------------------------------------- Micah Hoffpauir* 1b 28 .265 .321 .459 105 370 36 98 22 1 16 61 30 65 2 1 Mark DeRosa 2b 33 .276 .349 .405 125 417 56 115 23 2 9 55 43 83 1 2 Daryle Ward* 1b 33 .263 .342 .413 87 179 21 47 12 0 5 30 21 35 0 1 AVERAGE SS ------------- ss ---- .277 .332 .415 ------------------------------------------ Mike Fontenot* 2b 28 .268 .333 .412 144 456 65 122 29 5 9 48 44 86 7 4 Matt Craig# 3b 27 .256 .326 .421 122 399 44 102 26 2 12 52 38 103 3 1 Felix Pie* cf 23 .269 .321 .429 148 539 71 145 27 7 15 61 40 122 20 9 AVERAGE C --------------- c ---- .263 .324 .412 ------------------------------------------ Josh Kroeger* rf 25 .257 .307 .439 129 456 49 117 28 2 17 59 31 118 8 4 Jake Fox c 25 .254 .301 .439 124 465 43 118 30 1 18 64 23 113 5 2 Sam Fuld* cf 26 .261 .329 .377 114 403 59 105 28 2 5 34 36 62 14 3 Eric Patterson* 2b 25 .264 .318 .406 151 571 73 151 27 6 14 61 44 103 28 11 Steve Clevenger* 1b 22 .281 .321 .362 93 334 36 94 18 0 3 29 20 29 1 1 Ryan Theriot ss 28 .266 .324 .348 143 492 71 131 25 3 3 42 41 51 25 4 Ronny Cedeno ss 25 .271 .312 .398 141 462 52 125 20 3 11 48 26 86 9 7 Henry Blanco c 36 .235 .286 .383 51 149 14 35 8 1 4 20 10 26 0 0 Koyie Hill# c 29 .237 .292 .351 64 194 17 46 13 0 3 20 15 35 1 1 Casey McGehee 3b 25 .243 .288 .361 140 502 42 122 30 1 9 53 32 95 1 3 Brian Dopirak 1b 24 .233 .278 .370 106 386 26 90 23 0 10 42 22 111 1 1 Tyler Colvin* cf 22 .236 .267 .380 136 518 50 122 33 3 12 60 18 143 17 9 Nate Spears* 2b 23 .222 .289 .297 130 414 46 92 18 2 3 29 32 80 7 2 Chris Walker cf 27 .247 .289 .329 100 356 35 88 13 2 4 29 19 82 17 13 Ryan Harvey rf 23 .210 .239 .365 95 353 28 74 16 0 13 40 12 106 2 1 Player Spotlight - Felix Pie Name AVG OBP SLG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS OPS+ DR Optimistic (15%) .302 .362 .505 160 582 92 176 35 10 21 92 54 112 29 6 119 8 Mean .269 .321 .429 148 539 71 145 27 7 15 61 40 122 20 9 89 5 Pessimistic (15%) .239 .282 .364 130 473 50 113 21 4 10 52 28 116 11 9 63 1 Top Near-Age Offensive Comps: Corey Patterson, Dave Martinez The Corey Patterson similarities are downright hilarious these days. Name Age ERA W L G GS INN H ER HR BB K Bobby Howry 34 3.16 7 6 76 0 74.0 65 26 7 17 67 Mike Wuertz 29 3.33 4 3 69 0 73.0 60 27 7 32 84 Carlos Zambrano 27 3.70 14 11 32 32 207.0 177 85 22 100 189 Kerry Wood 31 3.72 2 1 30 0 29.0 23 12 4 14 33 Carlos Marmol 25 3.77 5 3 77 0 86.0 71 36 10 50 93 Scott Eyre* 36 3.81 2 1 67 0 59.0 53 25 6 31 60 Rich Hill* 28 3.88 10 9 31 29 181.0 160 78 27 60 190 Neal Cotts* 28 4.08 2 2 59 0 64.0 58 29 7 35 58 Carmen Pignatiello* 25 4.24 3 3 56 0 70.0 68 33 8 28 57 Ted Lilly* 32 4.24 12 12 31 31 176.0 165 83 25 67 158 Ryan Dempster 31 4.25 5 5 70 0 72.0 68 34 7 34 62 LEAGUE AVERAGE RELIEVER ------ 4.36 ----------------------------------------------- Jose Ascanio 23 4.50 3 4 49 3 88.0 91 44 8 39 55 Angel Guzman 26 4.64 3 3 17 12 66.0 67 34 8 28 56 Juan Mateo 24 4.64 6 9 29 23 130.0 134 67 16 45 93 LEAGUE AVERAGE STARTER ------- 4.78 ----------------------------------------------- Sean Gallagher 22 4.91 6 9 29 24 143.0 144 78 16 79 104 Sean Marshall* 25 4.97 6 8 22 21 116.0 124 64 17 49 75 Jason Marquis 29 5.06 9 14 30 29 176.0 189 99 28 66 96 Les Walrond* 31 5.11 5 8 25 19 118.0 128 67 17 52 77 Billy Petrick 24 5.12 2 2 37 0 51.0 54 29 9 19 34 Wade Miller 31 5.14 2 3 13 13 63.0 67 36 9 32 45 Steve Trachsel 37 5.20 5 10 23 23 128.0 141 74 19 57 62 Adam Harben 24 5.61 3 7 21 17 93.0 103 58 10 61 45 Donald Veal* 23 5.72 6 12 29 28 140.0 141 89 23 110 115 Kevin Hart 26 5.73 5 11 29 25 154.0 168 98 30 69 107 Mark Holliman 24 5.89 6 13 25 24 142.0 160 93 28 73 83 Ryan O'Malley* 28 6.15 4 9 29 19 120.0 146 82 26 40 58 Tim Lahey 26 6.19 3 8 51 0 80.0 92 55 14 43 47 Jeff Samardzija 23 6.27 3 8 21 19 99.0 122 69 20 39 37 Mike Nannini 28 6.90 1 5 35 5 73.0 86 56 21 36 53 Mitchell Atkins 22 7.16 4 14 27 25 137.0 166 109 40 73 82 * - Throws Left Player Spotlight - Ted Lilly ERA W L G GS INN H ER HR BB K ERA+ Optimistic (15%) 3.57 16 10 34 34 199 172 79 25 67 188 129 Mean 4.24 12 12 31 31 176 165 83 25 67 158 109 Pessimistic (15%) 5.28 7 12 25 25 138 144 81 25 62 114 87 Top Near-Age Comps: Floyd Bannister, Howie Pollet Player Spotlight - Carlos Zambrano ERA W L G GS INN H ER HR BB K ERA+ Optimistic (15%) 3.04 18 8 34 34 228 179 77 20 97 217 152 Mean 3.70 14 11 32 32 207 177 85 22 100 189 125 Pessimistic (15%) 4.53 9 11 26 26 163 153 82 21 92 137 102 Top Near-Age Comps: Andy Messersmith, Pete Harnisch http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/2008_zips_projections_chicago_cubs/

That's a real big risk to take, you might end up getting Jeromy Burnitzed. getting jeromy burnitzed in this situation is a guy with a 4.60 ERA as your #5 starter. I'll take it. We're not the Halos.

Will the offense be nice? They were the worst in the AL last year. Are Swisher and Cabrera really going to make up that much of a difference? Dont forget about Carlos Quentin, and a full year of Josh Fields. Their offense should be better just by not playing Darrin Erstad so much, but they have no chance in that division. Are they sticking Quentin in center? i think the plan is to play swisher mostly in center. no ****, thanks capt'n obvious. you missed the point try not to take yourself too seriously. you still didnt answer the question? which will then make you realize my point.

This really isn't going to happen, but w/e. Making up stuff is fun.