So basically nothing can convince you that Thibs lost the team. I can't really help you with that. There's never going to be anything explicitly showing the players saying this stuff, but there sure as horsefeathers was a ton of smoke. If it was just the FO wanting him gone, why bother waiting to fire him for his last season? They couldn't stand him for years before that. If he's got the players still on his side and willing to bust ass for him, then just let him finish out his final year and opt not to re-sign him when they inevitably fail to go anywhere yet again. Why do the opposite and piss off the players you think were still wanting to give him "exceptional effort" when you can just let him walk after his last year? Seems much more likely that the other shoe dropped of him losing the team and thus them losing their reason for keeping him around despite the FO hating him.