Andy

Based on their bodies of work so far, I firmly believe that future civilizations will dig up all the draft magazines that debated "Russell or Quinn?" before the 2007 draft and conclude that our society was primitive and stupid.

I went. It was depressing. This week we got word that we're doing a home-and-home with a freaking FCS team in 2013-14. When we visit Illinois State in 2013 it will be the first FBS at FCS matchup since '04. And our stupid athletic director admitted that he hadn't looked at the facts on that but still claimed that such matchups 'happen all the time'. To think that a year ago our biggest problem was that we hadn't beaten Miami (OH) by enough to move up in the BCS.

Stacey King rules. He's just as homer-ific as Red was but he's also a pretty good analyst, which Red, bless his heart, was not.

But, they scored in the 40s thus the whole Big East sucks. Or will that not apply this year? Georgetown runs the Princeton offense and almost never gets more than the low 70s. They're also young and not that good (yet). A lot of that apllied to us last year and it didn't stop us from getting the whole conference branded. And now you have a ton of ranked teams and everyone is sucking your conference's collective [expletive]. No reason to still be bitter.

But, they scored in the 40s thus the whole Big East sucks. Or will that not apply this year? Georgetown runs the Princeton offense and almost never gets more than the low 70s. They're also young and not that good (yet).

Yay for the Big East remaining undefeated after Georgetown rallies to beat Temple.

This league is one of two I'm in where I'm the highest-scoring team but am in 3rd place. I was in 5th place with the highest-scoring team until winning last week, oddly enough. A stroke of bad luck has my two defenses going against Indy and New England, so I picked up the Cardinals D, which faces the Rams this week. Should be a fun matchup.

Ronnie Brown is out for Thursday's game. It'd be nice to be back at .500.

Damn. Well that'll do it. You want him gone or no? I can't remember which side of the fence you're on.

Okay, earlier in his tenure, but what does that have to do with the team that is out there now? It's a BS argument. Weis had his best seasons with Ty's recruits. I'm not defending the argument GR made, but give Ty those teams and let's see him win 19 games in two years. I'm setting the over/under at 4.5 fewer wins that Ty would've had with the same crew.

Mike, I'm officially apologizing to Derek Anderson. He's probably not a good QB, but watching this atrocity I'm finally truly convinced that there's pretty much no way anyone could play well behind center in Cleveland. Which isn't to defend Brady either, he's been bad tonight. But they need some offensive playmakers if any QB is going to win for them.

Assist to Browns wideouts for dropping two passes into picks. And seriously, does he suck that bad in practice that you can't call a single deep ball ever? But yeah, it doesn't look good right now.

That's a horrible call.

Brady just wants more time with his hands under center. Homophobia is fun for the whole family.

Has Cleveland been screwing around like this pre-snap all year?

I think you are revealing why it's considered a bad job, more than defending it. Isn't the whole problem about everybody living in the past? How the coaches of the distant past are remembered doesn't really affect the status of the job right now. The problem is they're bringing in the wrong people. They hired a career assistant to replace Holtz, replaced him with a resume-fudger, panicked and hired Willingham to stem the negative p.r. blitz from the resume-fudger, then hired an NFL guy who doesn't get college football at all. People who call it a bad job conveniently forget that it's been filled by bad coaches for the last 13 years.

You are dreaming. It's the same job as it was when Lou Holtz left. It's a terrible job with high expectations and very little chance of success. Any coach who's at a state flagship institution like OU knows they have it better than whomever is coaching ND. The only thing that can attract Stoops or Meyer would be lots and lots of money and stroking their already massive self importance. I'm dreaming? Stoops allegedly has interest and I said I've love to have him as the coach at ND. It's not like I'm having t-shirts printed up or something. The job may be the same as it was when Holtz left, but I didn't say anything about that. Only that it's a much better job than it was in '04 when Ty left with 2 holes in the '03/'04 recruiting classes. Of the 14 non-interim head coaches at ND starting with Jesse Harper, 5 are now remembered as unqualified successes and pretty well revered in South Bend (Knute, Leahy, Parseghian, Devine, Holtz), Harper is well-remembered largely because he coached Rockne and put the wheels in motion for the Irish to become a power and 2 others (Layden and Brennan) were pretty solid coaches whose only fault was coming too soon after legends had left. Hunk Anderson won 63 percent of his games over 3 years. The only four in the bunch that are remembered with overt negativity are Faust, Davie, Willingham and ostensibly Weis. That doesn't seem like a job with no chance of success to me. The failure of Notre Dame coaches has more to do with the people hiring them than the coaches themselves (meaning these are guys that shouldn't have been put into a position like ND to begin with). I don't think it's a coincidence that only 1 of the first 3 was ever hired at a major program again (Ty running UW into the ground), and it's probably a safe bet that Weis won't get another college job.

I really shouldn't have, but I LOL'd.

I'd love, love, love to have Stoops. Easily my #1 choice. You and me both. Over Urban Meyer? Or do you not consider him an option? I don't think there's any way Urban would leave UF.

I'd love, love, love to have Stoops. Easily my #1 choice. You and me both. you two should start a club. You're welcome to join.

I'd love, love, love to have Stoops. Easily my #1 choice. You and me both.

A source says Bob Stoops "would be interested in talking to the Irish".

I don't know if I would've gone for it but I also can't kill Belichick for the decision. Peyton still had 1 timeout plus 2 minutes to go probably 75 yards. I would've bet my firstborn on him doing that if he punted the ball.

Miami is ranked ahead of UNC when they lost to them 24 hours ago. Polls make no sense. you wonder if/when the BCS formula will start moving more towards the computer polls and away from the human polls I believe that computer polls should be 100% of the BCS. Not the way they're currently structured, they shouldn't. If they bring back margin of victory into the computers then sure. But not the way the computers are set up now. The computers as of now are basically structured to look like human polls. True computer polls absolutely should be 100 percent of the BCS.

Lechler had to punt 11 times today. Anyone want to bet on how that compares to Anderson's line tomorrow against the Ravens? I would bet barring an injury that Anderson goes 0/0 tomorrow night.