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ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Andy replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I'm not watching the Series unless the Sox are down to the ninth inning and are about to be eliminated. I won't be able to stand watching their bandwagon fans and the stupid talk about Shoeless Joe and how good their starting rotation is when ours is better as long as we aren't taking line drives off the elbow...this is terrible. If the Sox win it all, I don't know what I will do. -
Thank you! I was wondering if I was the only one who could have given two sh*ts about the Sox in 2003. I was concerned with what might happen in the Series or how it would feel if the Cubs actually did pull it off.
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No, because bad luck doesn't happen to this team. It hasn't all year and it isn't going to now. The Sox will probably just throw four more complete games and sweep HOU/STL.
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It's not good for the city if the Sox win. It's good for the 10 percent of the city that likes the South Siders, but it isn't good for the city as a whole. The Sox are a good team. They earned it. But I'm still rooting against them no matter who wins the NLCS. And I'm probably not watching the Series. Because I know the Sox will win and I won't be able to watch them break the Chicago drought first.
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Holy crap, for the second time in three years, MLB has announced a blackout in the middle of the playoffs. The season is over. I can't believe it.
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Because the umpires of the ALCS are doing just a dandy, quality job. :roll: I don't know why I'm still watching.. After Game 2, I expected the Halos to be getting every make up call in the book and the Sox to be hosed the rest of the series. Instead the umps have been squeezing Angel pitchers and giving the Sox any strike zone they want. Typical White Sox. The umps help them out then decide they haven't done enough.
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May said ND would start 0-6. Of course he would say that it wasn't the best game of the year. He's got to cover his own stupid ass. I was there. It was the best college football game at the very least since ND/Miami 1988. In doubt the entire time, great plays made by great players everywhere. Leinart didn't look solid but he made the one great throw that he had to make on a 4th and nine...on which the stadium was louder than I have ever heard it, including when Shane Walton picked the game winner against UM three yrs ago, which I also saw. What you saw was two great teams out on the field, including four of the ten best players in the country in Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija, Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush. Bush won himself a Heisman on Saturday running for 160 yards and 3 touchdowns. The Leinart fumble call was the correct call but it the refs screwed it up. They were focusing on where to spot the ball and let the clock run down letting the ND students think the Irish had won. The first priority in that situation is making sure the clock is correct first. That was mismanagement on the refs' part. You want a prediction? This will be the last game Notre Dame loses until the fall of 2007.
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Vince Young has thrown for over 600 yards fewer than Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart, and he has rushed for 377 yards -- not enough, IMO, to make up for the spectacular differential (120 yards a game!!) in passing yards, especially since Brady Quinn has himself rushed for over a hundred yards this season, and also since Brady has put up his numbers against much better defensive competition. I think Vince is a great QB, but due to Media Michael Vick Syndrome, Young is getting more pub than he probably deserves.
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ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Andy replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I'm more interested to see the reaction to a certain White Sox catcher. -
Wow I didn't think they were that close either. Whoever wins tomorrow's game instantly becomes the front runner for the Heisman. If the Irish win Saturday, it's more than possible that Brady Quinn will be a Heisman winner with UT as the only remaining tough game on the slate. He came into the season as a sub-.500 quarterback. Such is the Weis influence.
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I am pretty neutral but if you make me pick one I will take the Cardinals just because STL is a better baseball town than Houston.
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He would have been up in July because he was the best batter to call up. We still wouldn't have seen Greenberg in the bigs if it weren't for Pie's injury. After all how is Pie ever going to become a decent major leaguer if he never plays in the bigs??
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I think that was game 4, which we lost anyway. We actually won Game 4, and I think that was the Lofton catch game because didn't Ramirez hit the grand slam a short time later? Ramirez hit his Grand Slam in like the second inning of an earlier game I thought. I'm positive the Grand Slam was in Florida, and I think that Lofton's catch was back in Chicago. You guys are thinking of game 4 of the NLCS, not the NLDS. Lofton's trap catch was in Chicago against Atlanta, and it was in game 4. ARam's grand slam was in the 1st inning of Game 4 of the NLCS off of Willis. Correct. Aram's bomb gave us the lead we would need for a 3-1 series advantage against the Marlins. Then the playoffs were cancelled for the year. Yes, Yes, I remember that quite clearly now. Thanks for helping me get everything straight. Too bad the playoffs were cancelled we had a good shot at winning it all too...
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I think that was game 4, which we lost anyway. We actually won Game 4, and I think that was the Lofton catch game because didn't Ramirez hit the grand slam a short time later? Ramirez hit his Grand Slam in like the second inning of an earlier game I thought. I'm positive the Grand Slam was in Florida, and I think that Lofton's catch was back in Chicago. I think Ramirez's GS was in Game 4...I'd have to look it up though. Unless someone happens to remember which game D-Train started because that's who he hit it off of. Lofton's catch, I think you are right...might have been Game 2, which we won...or it might have even been early in Game 6...I don't really remember.
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I think that was game 4, which we lost anyway. We actually won Game 4, and I think that was the Lofton catch game because didn't Ramirez hit the grand slam a short time later?
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Calls being the key word. Again....the ball was rolled BEFORE the ump put his hand up. And again, if he hadn't put his hand up there would have been plenty of time for Escobar to throw the runner out. And as Tim pointed out, in a raucous playoff atmosphere stadium, the signal trumps the verbal call, and the signal was clearly out. If it was so loud why did the pitcher and manager of the Angels say they heard the ump say the batter was out? It's not just the umps that are contradicting themselves. Escobar and Scioscia both said the ump called the batter out, but I think they are just referring to the signal. Scioscia especially would have no chance to hear the ump say anything. Neither one of them heard anything but they saw something. The fist that meant Classless One was out.
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On borderline plays like that you are absolutely wrong, the defensive players can never assume an offensive player is out. Until the ump says they are....says and shows the signal they are safe. You ask any coach....any coach and he'll tell you to take the decision out of the umps hands and make the easy tag. Assuming anything gets you can get you exactly what happened to the Angels. I don't think the extra effort is unreasonable in any way. From what I have been hearing, the ump has to yell "live ball" if he doesn't think a strike is caught. Paul says he heard nothing, and that is why he did nothing. This is the ump's fault and not Paul's in any way. Paul was not leaving the decision in the ump's hands because the ump had not said "live ball", so Paul rightly thought the decision had already been made. Saying Paul should have tagged him is akin to saying that on a double play grounder, the guy at second should stand on the bag until he heard the umpire call "out" before throwing it over to first.
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I've seen it, and that is definitely not the case. The ump called him out, paul rolled (and didn't sprint anywhere), then AJ ran, the ump froze, looked confused as hell, then panicked and didn't know what to do, then just stood around like an indignant idiot defending his ineptitude. You're right. I saw the fist pump while Paul was still in his crouch. If the Angels are at fault there, then everyone better tag every batter after every strike 3 call, everytime. The Angels definitely will. I wouldn't just tag them. If it's AJP, I slap him as hard as I can with the ball. It was a chance to do just that. But why would he have? The ump didn't call no catch, the rest of the infielders saw the ump call him out, and were running off the field. It was the same as any other inning ending strikeout, except that Eddings changed his mind after all the fielders were out of position, and AJP was at first. You just can't blame the Angels for this. The only thing the Angels did wrong was fail to realize how galactically stupid the home plate umpire was. And if we're supposed to assume the umpires are stupid, then why are they hired?
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He's been lying about everything. How about someone asks him, flat out, why he manipulated the umpire. While we're at it, ask him why he kicked a SF trainer in the balls last spring.
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Watching JRIB and it is clear that Classless One saw the fist before he took off. He was starting to run but he could have seen the fist. Kept running. He's a cheater. End of story.
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I've seen it, and that is definitely not the case. The ump called him out, paul rolled (and didn't sprint anywhere), then AJ ran, the ump froze, looked confused as hell, then panicked and didn't know what to do, then just stood around like an indignant idiot defending his ineptitude. You're right. I saw the fist pump while Paul was still in his crouch. If the Angels are at fault there, then everyone better tag every batter after every strike 3 call, everytime. The Angels definitely will. And I hope they stand up, glare at the ump to make sure he is watching, then exaggeratedly tag him and leave the glove applied for a good 3 seconds. It would be humorous and it would get their point across better than anything verbal would.
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That's not the only instance either. Same thing with Jose Molina's K back in the 6th, or around that time. Pumps the first once the tag is applied. Eddings is a liar and so is the rest of that umpiring crew.
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Brilliant post, Daymen. I agree completely.
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4 is more than 2. brilliant....still had the lead after the grand slam though. I love measuring the true nature of someones crappines. Lets bring Farnsworth, Alfonseca, and Fassero back. Then all will be well. I'd rather have Farnsworth than Novoa in the pen next season. I'd rather see Farnsworth out there than Wuertz, or JVB, or Leicester, or Wellemeyer. I'm not sure all would be well, but Farnsworth would've been the best righty in our pen last season, and barring a major FA acquisition, likely will be better than any righty in our pen next season. Oh, I agree. The Cubs never should have traded Farnsworth. They should have never overworked him, which led to his trade. He's no star, but he's a very good reliever. Wish the Cubs still had him. However, I would like to add that some do seem to be ignoring some of his downfalls. Players aren't robots, and I don't think Farnsworth always reacts well in a given situation. I'm not sure if clutch exists in baseball, but I do know it's human nature to react differently in different situations. There had to be some reason that Hawkins was an excellent set-up man but a terrible closer. I don't believe he just started to physically stink. I just wish the Cubs hadn't traded him to keep the Paul Wilson Possibilities in play. Nothing like a nice fight to shake things up once in a while.
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I'd like to throw in that I agree with Raisin's point from six or seven pages ago that Classless One just ran to see if he could get away with it. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who noticed that he had given up on the play, then decided to see if he could get away with running to first to take advantage of Eddings's indecision. The man could have been a professional criminal if he had not made it in baseball with that attitude,
