Who are you talking about? A few yokels/trolls? I certainly don't recall anyone here saying so. It's pretty difficult to say with a new coach, but Illinois should be pretty good (and I'm assuming Meyers Leonard leaves). (Though, in the yokels/trolls defense, Illinois went 6-12 last year in the Big Ten, figures to lose an NBA Lottery pick, and does not have much of a recruiting class. While it may be likely that the talented young players improve and Groce is an upgrade over Weber, neither of those things are a certainty.) Sosa21MVP about two pages ago. Ugh, I missed that. Well, he also doesn't think losing Watford will hurt, so . . . I did not say it will not hurt at all. I just don't think it would hurt the team as much as you think it would given the overall talent level we'll still have on the roster. Given a choice, I'd rather have Watford back. Hollowell kind of blew up this last high school season, I'd give him a fair shot at replacing some of that production. Perea is more of a raw talent so yeah between the two, it would be my hope Jeremy can step up. And yes, I was trolling Bruce Weber. I thought it was fairly obvious but apparently not. :P Yeah, it was obvious you were trolling Weber; I just missed your comment the first time around. (Which made my initial post look rather foolish, oh well.) The overall talent level on next year's team will certainly be higher (assuming Zeller stays, of course). And I love Hollowell -- as you mentioned, he pretty much blew up; and I don't think he'll be at IU for four years (and not in the Watford way). He and Perea certainly would be capable of potentially replacing Watford's production of twelve points and six rebounds per game. But basketball isn't baseball; merely "replacing" production doesn't necessarily equate to replacing the player. The roster -- in depth, experience, and versatility -- just looks much, much better with Watford.