If McCamey comes back they're going to contend for the Big Ten title next year. I'm sorry but big freaking whoop. Your sights should be higher than contending for a conference title once every few years. If Kruger or Self had stuck around you'd be looking at a perennial powerhouse, IMO. I don't see that ever coming out of Weber. What's holding Illinois back from being one of the 5-10 best jobs in the country? The reason we are where we've been the last 4 years is because of a horrendous stretch of recruiting. He's recruiting now, I don't know what you want from me. If Illinois contends for a Big Ten title, that means they're a top 10-15 team in the country. You think if Illinois does that next year, they're gonna go win 19 games in '12? I agree with IG that the '11 recruiting class is going to be a huge one for Weber. If he manages a top 10 class there, Illinois is going to be very very good for a long time. And Kruger was not going to make Illinois into a perennial powerhouse. He was very fortunate that Peoria was so fertile while he was here. He wasn't getting anything out of the Chicago area. Self, I could see, but it's easy to say that now that he's gone on to one of the programs that recruits itself, and allows people who can't read like Brandon Rush into the school. I guess my point is that Illinois, with all of its resources, should be one of those schools that's always in the top 10-15 or so unless it's a true rebuilding year. If not in basketball then in football. I think you guys should work up the fan base into such an irrational lather that you'll end up with the big splashy hire that'll bring in the sick recruiting classes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population Look at the top 10. Besides NY, which has a very fragmented state university system, Illinois is the only one that doesn't field a powerhouse football and/or basketball program (and never has really). There's something wrong with that.