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He doesn't have a position. If he gets his head on straight he could be a great 6th man though. How is he ok to play 25 minutes a game as a 6th man without a position, but not 35 as a starter? The definition of positions in the NBA is so ambiguous, you don't really need to fall into a preset definition to be successful. As a 6th man he can be your primary offensive option on the 2nd unit. He's going up against other bench players a lot of the time. Guys like Donyell Marshall, Chris Gatling, Rodney Rogers made a great living being ambiguous 3/4 combo forwards and sparks off the bench. Lamar Odom works a lot better off the bench too. I mean where's he's going to play on Miami as a starter? If he's a 4 he'll get murdered on the glass and Bosh want a legit defensive partner down there.

He doesn't have a position. If he gets his head on straight he could be a great 6th man though.

MJ is secretly enabling Lebron to Miami because he's afraid James will overshadow his accomplishments in Chicago.

I'd already forgotten about that. In fact, until I caught it briefly on SportsCenter yesterday, I'd forgotten that the Broncos drafted Timmy Boy.

The Vest.

It's going to get huge ratings considering it's been only a few days in the making and it's a essentially a glorified press conference.

I was with the Simmons column until he actually suggested that a Miami super team wouldn't win 50 games. Come on now. That line about looking up in the rafters and being inspired by Rony Seiklay's jersey was great though.

Every team in the league is gonna kill themselves to win when they play Miami. I think that Bulls team in 96 kinda snuck up on people at first because of the way the previous season ended and no one was certain how MJ would come back or Rodman would fit in. If Lebron goes to Miami the country will be built up into a frenzy about how to beat them and how great beating them would be. No way I see them besting 72-10.

Damon Jones actually played 12 minutes in that Game 1 I mentioned. He had 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, and he did not attempt a field goal or free throw. I don't even know how that's possible.

Larry Hughes was horrible on the Cavs.

In Game 1 of the 2007 NBA Finals the Cavaliers started Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas with Mike Brown on the bench. I think that qualifies and then some.

you never know i'm 90% a win at any costs kinda guy but i do have a sentimental attachment to "our guys." i would love to root for a legitimmate contender where rose was the best player on the team.

if derrick and jo are able to drag this team to a finals appearance and a few battles for the EC crown in the next 5 years or so this town will [expletive] adore them i don't want to set the bar too low or anything but i'm prepared to root for that if that's what it comes down to

wsup buddies anyone wanna give me the condensed version of the last 8 hours

Are you making that up?

Lebron and Boozer/Lee on the Bulls still makes a lot of sense damn it! Nothing's changed! http://rationallythinkingoutloud.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/bagdad_bob_large.gif

It sounds like Toronto is not interested in a S&T deal centered around Michael Beasley. I don't know how else a S&T from Miami for Bosh would work. At the same time, I'm really a bit surprised that Bosh would go somewhere without a 6 year S&T deal. He's not Lebron and he's not Wade where he has huge dollars coming off the court. That $30 million means a lot more to him than it does to those guys I would think. I also think the Raptors would love to be able to get a guy like Noah in return for Bosh (assuming they don't have to take Deng's bad contract too) and Bosh would have to think very hard about accepting a S&T to Chicago if that were the case. Plus he knows Wade was in the picture there too. Of course Bosh has been pretty clear about wanting to play PF and losing Noah would change that equation. I'm talking myself in circles here, I realize.

So you've already reached stage 5 on the Kübler-Ross model? Congrats. Sorta. But seriously, having Lee/Boozer at something less than the max and being able to retain Noah is better than having Bosh at the max and no Noah. The only way it's not is if Bosh is the only avenue for Lebron or Wade which I admit is entirely possible.

I'm withholding judgment until I see where James goes. I still say Chicago is the best place for him if he wants to win. If he goes to Miami it will be James/Bosh/Wade and then a bunch of minimum salary scrubs. They'll compete, but they will have absolutely NO depth on their bench. If he goes to New York he'll get all the money and fame he wants but I'm not sure that Stoudamire/James is going to be enough to win anything. However, if he comes to Chicago he'll have James/Rose/Noah plus plenty of money to go out and get either Lee or Boozer and maybe another role player or two. Not to mention they already have Deng under contract; not that that's a huge draw, but it's more than Miami has. That's really only true for this year and somewhat next year. As time goes on, their bench will fill out and they'll likely have plenty of depth to go along with the 3 stars and that's a much better situation than any other of the cities can offer. Of course, the money is not likely to work out to let all 3 of them come in the first place. Of course Miami can win with James/Wade/Bosh. Only a matter of time. But does LeBron really want to do that? Play with 2 other all stars on a team everyone EXPECTS to win? Dilute his stats? Will he really go down in history as one of the greatest ever if he does that? And can it even happen from a money standpoint? In my very biased pro-Bulls opinion, the Bulls are still the best option for him. LeBron, Boozer/Lee, with Rose and Noah will destroy Miami and be a championship contender. Let's see if LeBron is smart enough to realize this. I still put some weight on the argument that Lebron wouldn't want to team up with Bosh/Wade because he wouldn't be a clear cut #1 guy. It was even leaked that Prokhorov said it would dilute his brand.

It sounds like the Bulls are targeting Carlos Boozer. I like Lee better at this point. He's younger, less injury risk, and while he's been horribad defensively he tries hard. I think he could go from awful to not terrible on D under Thibs and playing his real position in a defensive oriented system.

If Bosh walks for a 5 year deal with no S&T I'm not sure the talking point that the Bulls did everything to get him holds water anymore. Of course Bosh has to agree to it but a Joakim Noah package is way better than a Michael Beasley package. Although I've come around to the idea that signing Boozer/Lee outright is better anyway.

Is Bosh being S&Ted or do we not know that yet? Anyway, let's get David Lee.

except VDN coaching the knicks that's the funniest [expletive] i ever heard edit: or the clippers lmao

i've been out drinking for the last few hours and these last few pages have been hilarious to me i can't comprehend whats' going on right now

No way Mike Miller can guard 2s. He's strictly a spot up shooting 3 if you ask me. I could live with Reddick and Boozer.