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Javy can stay in his same role and if he continues to progress, you find him even more time. I feel pretty confident ONE of Dex or Almora is our Opening Day CF next year. Gomez is intriguing as a stop gap, but I'd bet we fill it with one of our own. Its interesting that Happ is playing CF tonight. I'd prefer to trade Almora over him, if Happ can play CF regularly. But that would require holding on to Almora until Happ is ready and letting Dex go. Because I can't see Dex taking anything short of 3 years and likely able to get 4 on the open market.

Haha that's funny as I even felt bad writing it. No problem trading any other player really. Would you consider trading Almora and resigning Fowler to a 2 or 3 year deal? 2021 and 2022 is interesting as to who they extend already and if you have Almora as well. I understand looking too far down the line as well. But Fowler compliments other players perfectly. Obviously have to consider the compensation pick. Its a tough choice. I think they'll take the comp pick and play Almora myself. Partially because I expect Happ to be dealt with Soler, for pitching. I really like Dex though, if you keep him, it gives you another guy that sees a ton of pitches. Almora>>>comp pick, so as long as money doesn't stand in the way......Keeping him and trading Almora helps the org more, IMO.

Padres are getting Bolanos too for around 2 mill or so. Seeing him go for that, Arozarena going for under that.....I am really surprised we didn't add anything else, while we could.

I'm all for moving Soler + for pitching. I'm liking the Braves as a trade partner quite a bit(even without Teheran). Big NO on trading Eloy though. Not willing to trade a potential scary ass monster.

I'm not prorating anything with this. Straight salary numbers, with bonuses not included. C Montero-14, Contreras- Min 1B Rizzo-7 2B Zobrist-16, Seal Boy-Min SS Russell- Min, Baez-Min 3B Bryant-Min LF Soler-3, Schwarber-Min CF Almora-Min, Scissors-Min RF Heyward-21.5 Total-61.5 + Min salaries Free Agents- C Gramps, LF Coghlan Mutual Option- CF Fowler-9 In no way, shape, or form do I expect Dex to opt in, so he's basically a FA himself. Heyward moves up 6.5 from 2016, Zobrist moves up 6, and Rizzo moves up 2. So that's 14.5 more than 2016. Ross was 2.5 and Dex was 8. In other words, our salary from hitting looks to be 4.5 mill more than 2016, not including Dex, Ross, or Coghlan(midseason addition that I'm not accounting for as we'll do that each year) Keeping Dex could be costly. I could see us taking the comp pick and letting him walk. Almora in CF won't be any worse hitting than 2016 Heyward, who hopefully morphs back into pre-2016 Heyward. A full season of Schwarber and Contreras behind the plate, the offense conceivably improves next year(especially if other kids continue improvement), even if we stand pat and don't even keep Dex. I figure its 50/50 on Dex and if we let him walk, I'm sure we'll bring in some sort of veteran that can conceivably not be awful, if Almora falters too much. Pitching Lester-20 Lackey-12.5 Hendricks-Min All 3 of these run the same as 2016. Arrieta-last arb (16?) Guess on the number there obviously. But its up from 10.7 in 2016. Club Option Hammel-12, versus a 2 mill buyout. This ones interesting to me. He'd be making 3 mill more and he's realistically worth it. But with the lack of pitching in FA, the extremely small likelihood we head into 2017 with the same 5 as in 2016....My honest guess is we pick up the option and trade him, allowing for a spot opening. At any rate, it puts our rotation up 8.3 mill, assuming we at least pick up the option, whether we keep him or not. Rotation Salary-60.5+ Min(includes Hammel) Free Agents- None Bullpen Montgomery-Min Edwards-Min Arb guys Rondon(7.5 estimate) up from 1st year of 4.2 Strop(6 estimate) up from 4.4 Grimm(1.375 estimate) up from 1.275 Free Agents- Chapman,Cahill, Richard, Wood, Nathan, Smith, Concepción(release likely)Edwin Jackson Cahill, Wood, Richard, Concepción, and Jackson save us 25.620 off the payroll. Rondon, Strop, and Grimm will make about 5 mill more than this season. Weird Option- Nathan at 1.5 next year Pen Salary-16.875 + Min All in all, our salary looks to be 6 mill under our teams salary ENTERING 2016, with this as the basic roster, included in that..... 136.875 Total + Min guys C Montero-14, Contreras 1B Rizzo-7 2B Zobrist-16, Seal Boy-Min SS Russell- Min, Baez-Min 3B Bryant-Min LF Schwarber-Min CF Almora-Min, Szczur-Min RF Heyward-21.5, Soler-3 SP Lester-20 Arrieta-16 Lackey-12.5 Hammel-12 Hendricks-Min Pen Rondon-7.5 Strop-6 Grimm-1.375 Montgomery-Min Edwards-Min Patton-Min(to fill out roster) Not even a realistic option for 12th pitcher. No idea how much of an increase to expect, they mentioned numerous times as to doing 2 years of FA shopping last off season. Still, we're in contention, making tons at the gate, and likely to see another ticket increase, on top of some extra dollars from present TV/Radio/Signage etc..... We won't go nuts, due to escalating costs of our own kids. Not to mention how awful the FA class looks to be..... So, the questions are our major needs. It looks to be CF, SP, and Pen help. Hammel provides financial flexibility for us, if wanted. My guess, after doing this...... Let Dex walk. Sign a vet who's more of a 4th OFer type Trade Soler + minor leaguers for the best cost controlled SP we can get Sign a FA SP depth type or 2. One year deal guys. Trade Hammel for pen help. Spend decent amount of cash on pen, trying to keep Rondon pitching the 8th. Apologies for making this so long, I kind of just wanted to see how good of shape we were in, heading into next year. Its confirmed, we're looking really horsefeathering good.

I wouldn't assume that at all. Go look at the Angels and Marlins systems.

I didn't want to slot Hatch in until the off season. No clue if we get any action out of him though before that. I think I'd have slotted him at 7 and Miller at 10 though, if I were including them.

Top 10 Pitching Prospects? 1 De La Cruz- With his frame and stuff, this ones easy for me. 2 Cease- easily the best stuff, likely to skyrocket in value with a few good outings in SB next year 3 Albertos- Not a lot of projection left, but very good stuff and knows how to pitch 4 Clifton- Throws hard enough, I see a reliever in the end 5 Paulino-Athletic, solid velo from a lefty, breakout poitential 6- Steele- Very good stuff, with command will come his breakout 7 Zastryzny- Future swing guy or LOOGY 8 Underwood- He's young and he's got excellent stuff. horsefeathers it. 9-Tseng- I think he's underrated, will start in the majors(not for us and we won't get any value out of him) 10 Kellogg- I wish the stuff ticked up. I'd be more enthused. Guess its still POSSIBLE it will next season Others- Marquez, Hudson, Sands, Carrera, Clark, Miller, Moreno, Hatch,Rondon, Mekkes Zero clue what to think of Ryan Williams right now and there's more DSL arms with breakout poitential. Maybe even to the point where I'd take the "field" over Marquez or Carrera.....

I think we may have been a year early, but next season could easily be the breakout for our pitching.

He farted in their general direction.

Steve Stone, from my childhood, cowers in fear.

I guess we actually owe horsefeathering Dempster his Harry impersonations, for having the forethought to turn down the Delgado trade.

There's a glut of MI, but I definitely think Ademan comes over. Figure Diaz has a chance too. If Herson Perez has any chance, they'll bring him over, since he's 20.

I'm holding out hope its for the former Maryland PF.

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Gotta love hypocritical Marlins. That dude they traded for Rodney a few weeks back(Paddack) is already down and set to have TJS.

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That is a huge haul for 2 rental players. #expectedresponse

Hopefully, that's not the headliner either. I hope Billy got one of DeLeon, Bellinger, or Verdugo in this.... horsefeathers. They're still going to get Archer or Sale or some other elite piece.

What's wonderful is hearing their fans bitch about how unlucky they are with injuries.

Hopefully, that's not the headliner either. I hope Billy got one of DeLeon, Bellinger, or Verdugo in this....

There was a time we had interest.....

If Jharel Cotton is the main piece going back, that's a hell of a deal for the Dodgers.

[tweet] [/tweet] Give me some Blister Boy. He's a great fit at this point, if Candelario and/or Zagunis can lead a deal for him.

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