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Yeah you do. They're a horsefeathering disaster. Holy horsefeathers. That's absolutely pitiful.

They're actually talking to the press in a bit.

Hudson? Who are you confusing him with? Yeah I overlooked him in that list. The rest, relevant. It IS an interesting group...... I'd go Zastryzny, Mills, Williams, Johnson, Hannemann, in ranking that exact set.

As far as that list goes, I think its probably the closest to my own rankings as any of them. I'd add Moreno and Steele, drop Morrison for sure. Then debate between Hannemann and Hudson, to see who is 30th for me.

Hudson? Who are you confusing him with?

Its just one of those things that epitomizes this garbage org......This roster is a mish mash of weird pieces to be thrown together.....You can kind of see how a decent amount of this group could fit well with a slower paced offensive minded scheme. Far from perfect, but you can at least see it as built towards that..... And we literally the opposite offensive minded head coach in place. Fred ain't much. But, as little as I think of him, its GarPaxes fault for giving him this shitbag of pieces he's got to try and fit into what he does well.....

Russell Okung is not getting his option picked up by Denver. I'd love him at LT and let Leno and Massie fight it out on the right side.

It kind of looks like Michael is going to be as bad or worse than Jerry.

Nick Young can be had for a 2nd. Evidently Brandon Knight can be too, with an expiring. If you're going to try and win a round this year, those aren't bad additions.

I saw that and was immediately skeptical. George is on the same level as Jimmy is, but I'll be shocked if he isn't a Laker after next year. I still think/hope its leverage.

The trade makes more sense to make in the off season. When you KNOW where that picks value is at. But, they're easily the best team set up to trade with and if they're dealing for a star now, its unfortunately still the best option. Yeah, you're going to suck for a couple of years. You're also adding serious assets and can make deals to cut that time down, with the added value of low cost guys in the CBA now. This is a far different situation than the post-Jordan era teams. I'm not positive, but I think Kerr and Longley was all that were dealt from those squads....Pippen was on a sign and trade. The rest left for nothing at all. You're just doing this now(or this off season) to maximize value, because Jimmy is going to want to win. Its not happening in Chicago. Suck now and have building blocks or start from scratch in 2 years and watch it take longer.

We have Jimmy for 2 more years. By all means, let's sit and watch 2 more years of .500 basketball before he bolts and we're a 20 win team. Or.....Maybe you still think this is a contender.

[tweet] [/tweet] Good God. Get on this GarPax. horsefeathering idiots.

Sure it did. The Kings think Hield is the next Curry. Doesn't matter if they're wrong. Bulls barely even have anyone you can squint hard at and see a future starting player. oh come on "the kings liked bad player x on the pelicans. doesn't matter if they're wrong, no way they like bad player y on the bulls" the package was terrible. acquisition cost was not the barrier. I'm not arguing the package was terrible. But Hield was the 6th pick last year. Some thought he was a top 3 value in that draft. For that matter, Tyreke Evans would probably be the 3rd best player on the Bulls. As bad as the package was.....The Bulls couldn't match it.

that didn't seem to be a problem as far as acquiring cousins Sure it did. The Kings think Hield is the next Curry. Doesn't matter if they're wrong. Bulls barely even have anyone you can squint hard at and see a future starting player.

The bigger problem in acquiring Cousins is that the Bulls literally have one p!ayer on the roster with true value.

I wonder if Seal Boy is still planning to retire, if he's traded or doesn't make the OD roster?

[tweet] [/tweet] Seriously......Auditioning for KingPin 2 or to be a Wyatt Family member?

It seems most analysts think King is a Safety.(as a 2nd or 3rd rounder, he'd be great) I like him and Lattimore, but I do NOT want to take a Corner inside the top 15. Too much depth at that position in this draft. 2nd or 3rd round is still going to have very solid choices available.

Watching the QB's in this draft is going to be fun. It really looks like we like Trubisky and Garoppolo. I really don't think we're a fit for Garoppolo, since both San Fran and Cleveland pick higher than we do, and appear interested too. Plus, there's rumors SF may try and trade for Cousins. Garrett is surely going 1st, barring something weird happening. But, I DO think Trubisky goes 2nd or 3rd now. If he goes 2nd and Garoppolo winds up in Cleveland.....I have no idea what to expect out of us at QB. Other than retaining Hoyer. I do think one of Kizer or Watson, maybe both, are available in the late 1st. Maybe even in the 2nd. And yeah, Raw, I see where you're going with Cooks. I agree with us looking for route runners. I like the general premise, but think we'd need to acquire a 2nd(this year or next) to make the value even out. Because its taking us out of the elite defensive guys, by trading down that far. Multiple trade downs, to get there, would be fun though. And I have to admit, part of me really would like to see OJ Howard at 11. That guys going to be a stud.

I like Cooks, but 3 to 11 is a huge drop. That's worth around the 17th pick on its own, by the chart. Even if its outdated, is a year of Cooks worth that? When you can keep Alshon for just money? Sure, it saves on the cap this year, but that's kind of irrelevant. Because that cap savings will be fairly hard to spend. We're way under the cap and there's other teams in the same situation. So, as much as I do think we'll be very active, I don't see us using ALL the space we have. So, I think I'd pass. Just keep Alshon instead.

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Cut- QB Cutler, WR Royal, Edge Houston, RT Massie, CB Porter Re-Sign WR Jeffery WR/ST Thompson OL Larsen Edge Washington QB Hoyer Free Agency DT Dontari Poe LT Andrew Whitworth CB AJ Bouye, Stephon Gilmore S Tony Jefferson Draft 3) S Jamal Adams 36) QB Deshone Kizer 67) TE Jordan Leggett 109) OT Taylor Moton 115) WR Noah Brown 148) TE Gerald Everett 224) S David Jones QB Hoyer, Kizer RB Howard, Carey, Langford WR Jeffery, White, Thompson WR Meredith, Brown, Bellamy TE Miller, Everett, Rivera TE Leggett, Pruitt, Brown LT Whitworth, Adams RT Leno, Moton LG Sitton, Larsen RG Long, Kush C Whitehair, Grasu Edge Goldman, Washington, Bullard NT Poe, Sutton Edge Hicks, Unrein OLB McPhee, Young OLB Floyd, FA backup ILB Freeman, Jones ILB kwiatkowski, Timu, Trevathan CB Bouye, Leblanc, Callahan CB Gilmore, Fuller, Hall S Adams, Amos, Jones-Quartey S Jefferson, Bush, Jones I got too cute with Whitworth, who I love. I doubt we move Leno to pick him up, and cut Massie. But, if we could somehow add Bouye, Gilmore, Jefferson, and Poe in FA.....I'd be ecstatic. Adams at 3 seems like a long term Pro Bowler. Kizer falling to 36 is a steal. If one of the 4 QB's hadn't fell, I'd have reached in the 3rd for Webb. Leggett in the 3rd was a nice get too. Moton is there in the 4th to develop behind Whitworth. Brown was a decent value at WR in the 4th. Everett in the 5th wouldn't happen, with Leggett already drafted. But he was an excellent value and liked the idea of multiple TE sets longterm, so I took him. Jones in the 7th was depth/ST. Edit- The general idea is this for me.....Go with Hoyer at QB and use 36 and a pick from next year, to secure one of Mahomes, Kizer, or Watson. Assuming you've got to move back into the 20's to get one of them. Forget the Whitworth move and just keep Massie. It'd be really nice to add Cordarelle Patterson, to give us a great returner again. If you can do that, I wouldn't mind packaging the 2 4ths to move into the 3rd and add Andrew Garcia as a Tackle. Then use the 5th and 7th on the secondary. At any rate, if you can address the D in FA in a way similar to what was added, it allows for the offense to be the focus in the draft, after taking Adams. Our D, with the additions of a brand new secondary and a NT.....I do think that's a top 5 defense, even if Trevathan misses the season. Can Hoyer take this team to the playoffs? With a really good D, I guess its possible. Especially if White or Patterson comes out OK as the 3rd WR. If he looks bad, you can conceivably throw the non Trubisky QB out there in the 2nd half of the season to give him experience and see if he can win some games that Hoyer couldn't.

Ha, any time I get Garret I just do it over figuring its not realistic. Would love Watson at 36, but I do think you'd have to trade up into late round 1 if he starts falling. Yeah, I should have done that too lol. With the QB's, it seems to me that the current buzz is Trubisky is a top 5 lock. Mahomes looks like he's gained a lot of buzz as the big upside/great makeup type that looks like a top 20 lock. Watson and Kizer aren't getting talked about a lot. It won't shock me to see one of these 4,(likely one of Watson/Kizer) to be on the board at 33 for Cleveland to pick or trade out.